Quote from: achow101 on April 18, 2017, 02:07:48 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on April 18, 2017, 01:56:58 PM

Quote from: achow101 on April 18, 2017, 01:41:57 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on April 18, 2017, 12:49:26 PM

Yes, because "blocks that you consider to be valid but which every segwit-enforcing node rejects"
will be orphaned as the longest chain prevails.

No, unmodified non-segwit miners will be producing valid blocks and their blocks will still be accepted. Segwit transactions are considered by non-segwit nodes as being non-standard. An unmodified non-segwit miner means that they have not changed any of the local node policy rules, which include the standardness rules. As long as they are following the standardness rules, they will not be mining segwit transactions and thus their blocks will not be invalid. These miners will not have their blocks orphaned unless they mine a segwit transaction, but that will only happen if they modify their standardness rules.

You're not making sense. If blocks are rejected (per bitcoincore.org) then either they get orphaned, or there's a split.

Their blocks only get rejected if and only if they include a segwit transaction, but they also consider segwit transactions to be non-standard so they won't include such transactions thus their blocks won't be rejected.

Non segwit minority miners must still build on top of the longest chain that the rest of the network considers valid. Do you agree or disagree?