Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2017, 06:47:51 PM

Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 20, 2017, 04:50:35 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2017, 03:07:42 PM

As a conservative, I fully support the legalization of drugs (or at least the soft drugs such as weed). The war on drugs and the ban has only helped the drug mafias and big bankers. If the drugs are made available through government-owned shops, then the drug violence will cease, and the number of deaths from drug overdose will be a thing of the past.

Yes, what we're seeing the world over is some Prohibition Era shit... Just remind them they'll earn money from legalizing drugs, they love taxes.

They are very shrewd. The tax money will go to the treasury, and only a small amount of it can be stolen by the corrupt politicians. On the other hand, if the prohibition remains in place, then the politicians will be able to earn a lot of bribes and commissions, not just from the drug mafias, but also from the big bankers and the pharma cartels.

Seems a more realistic explanation. As always there is the advertised part (protect the children, fight addiction) that modt low level (and iq) operatives bought and then there is your explanation...

Quote from: xSkylarx on April 24, 2017, 05:16:40 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on April 20, 2017, 05:36:35 AM

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

The major factor that oppose the legalization of drugs is that the impact on the health of its citizens which as we know is an asset to the government itself that the declining health and possibility for the growth of addiction regarding this will increase and results to the declining performance in their work which will put the economy in a disastrous situation.

As you see, there a lot of micro and macro perspectives regarding the effects thats why it should be carefully studied so it will not cause a great disaster with their decision. Im not really an expert regarding the effects of these drugs but I trust that they know best and it is up to them whether to legalize it (with moderation and only be used in medications) or not.

But fukushima trails? Gmos? Glyphosates? Fracking fluids all legal... i hope you can grasp the hyprocrisy.

You know with internet you have the hedge over the experts. You have to admit that they foremost fight for their steaks. Truth be cast away if necessary. You are free to access all information, even those they don't want you to see. And think, don't rely on them. They are muppets, learning answers to pass tests and get experthood.

Quote from: xypos on April 23, 2017, 11:21:37 AM

The answer for that question is incredibly simple in my opinion, however there might be many different correct replies you can make.

One of them is that gangs and criminal groups do want illegal drugs because that can make them very rich, the profits from drug traffic and drug dealing are enormous.

Another one is medical industry. They do not want to see weed legalized, because it can cure or help in thousands of different illnesses. The sales of their pills would have gone down, after all why would anyone take a pill for a headache if you can simply smoke a little bit of weed, to get well?

Quote from: freedomno1 on April 23, 2017, 10:25:43 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on April 20, 2017, 05:36:35 AM

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

The presumption is to many people get addicted to drugs plus people really don't want their next door neighbor wreaking the place up with some DANK weed ^^.
Kind of like cigarettes and how long its taken to wean down that user-base and second hand smoke.
Education classes says gateway drugs lead to harder stuff and a binge addicted neighbor needing some quick cash stealing your stuff versus a slightly crazy but never tried drugs neighbor on the macro scale of things makes a difference.

Social good vs Societal Good basically.
On the other hand (Cartels) Western view destroy and make them dig deeper underground and do more evil
Eastern View (Tolerate co-exist towards social peace) But still fight (Japan and Yakuza)

Addictive behavior prevention. Markets can drop the price of those profucts to almost 0. As you understand it's shit. The only value comes from criminalization and the costs induced by it.

Quote from: joebrook on April 23, 2017, 11:13:09 AM

Drugs have no place in today's society , it will surely surely end with nothing good for the entire world

Because you decide? Ban motorbikes too as you are at it.

Quote from: Barbarian on April 23, 2017, 03:27:39 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on April 20, 2017, 05:36:35 AM

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

The problem with drugs is that they carry lots of consequences both long term and short term not only to the one that uses them but society as a whole, consequences like higher amounts of crime, higher costs of health care and family disintegration and since we all pay the cost of that I suppose that is one of the main reasons to forbid drugs for the good of society.

Isn't it logical to you that criminalizing a victimless, full consent activity will increase crimes? What happenend to you?