Quote from: af_newbie on April 26, 2017, 12:50:31 AM

Quote from: Moloch on April 25, 2017, 09:53:18 PM

ROFL

First, Jesus never existed

Second, biblical quotes are far from profound (some are quite horrifying)... the bible is not known as a literary work of art by any stretch of the imagination

Blame the education system....Another 20 years and the US will be behind China, Russia, India and Brazil...never mind Europe.

Sorry but Christian universities will not cut it to lead the world in science and technology. Do you want to see what the world looks like when religion takes over the education system? Take a look at the Middle East. How many Nobel Prize winners are from the Muslim countries? That is the future the US is facing if you guys continue down this 'Christian path'.

Moloch are you so blind in your hatred of Christianity that you have lost the ability to think rationally? Denying the historical existence of Jesus is just dumb. Mass movements do not appear out of thin air. Do you think Julius Caesar never existed either or Mohammad. Maybe George Washington was just made up huh?

af_newbie religion is not incompatible with science and progress. In fact the opposite is true. Monotheism is the foundation that has allowed us to progress as far as we have. I would refer you to Religion and Progress for the reasons why.

A vastly disproportionate number of Noble Prize Winners come from the rich tradition of Monotheism.

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners
https://www.algemeiner.com/2013/10/29/richard-dawkins-perplexed-by-high-number-of-jewish-nobel-prize-winners/

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The usually self-assured biologist, author and atheist Richard Dawkins expressed his bewilderment at the disproportionate amount of Nobel prizes won by Jews in a recent interview with the New Republic, saying he is intrigued by the phenomenally high number of Jewish laureates.

Addressing the controversy surrounding a Tweet he wrote during the conferment of Nobel prizes earlier this month, Dawkins offered up something of a mea culpa, stating: That was unfortunate. I should have compared religion with religion and compared Islam not with Trinity College but with Jews, because the number of Jews who have won Nobel Prizes is phenomenally high.

Continuing, he said: Race does not come into it. It is pure religion and culture. Something about the cultural tradition of Jews is way, way more sympathetic to science and learning and intellectual pursuits than Islam. That would have been a fair comparison. Ironically, I originally wrote the tweet with Jews and thought, That might give offense. And so I thought I better change it.

Asked why he thought it is that Jews have won so many Nobel Prizes, Dawkins was forthright with his uncertainty.

I havent thought it through. I dont know. But I dont think it is a minor thing; it is colossal. I think more than 20 percent of Nobel Prizes have been won by Jews.

According to the Jewish Virtual Library, since the Nobel was first awarded in 1901 approximately 193 of the 855 honorees have been Jewish (22%). Jews make up less than 0.2% of the global population.

This year 6 of 12 laureates were Jewish. The 13th laureate, for the Nobel Peace Prize, was awarded to an organization and not an individual.

What about Christians? Well they took home a massive share of the prizes too.

Christians: 65.4% of Nobel Prize Laureates
https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/christians-65-4-of-nobel-prize-laureates.174202/

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According to 100 Years of Nobel Prize (2005), a review of Nobel prizes awarded between 1901 and 2000, 65.4% of Nobel Prize Laureates, have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference (423 prizes). Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards.

85% of Noble Prize winners are Christian or Jewish. Christians and Jews together make up only about 32% of the world population.