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Quote from: mprep on May 01, 2017, 11:48:07 AM

Quote from: kennyP on May 01, 2017, 12:41:45 AM

Why was 'iamnotback' banned in the first place? He has been a significant contributor on this forum for many years, highly respected for his analysis, and he has educated many forum users on a wide range of topics. He deserved more respect, looks like you banned a significant and important 'voice' in the crypto space just because what he says and does annoyed you ... that's weak & cowardly.

According to other mods who dealt with his antics (I've merely reported one of his alts), he's been banned multiple times under numerous other accounts for trolling (which ended up with him finally getting a permaban and thus him ban evading to circumvent that). He has shown a complete disregard to the forum's rules to such a degree that I don't think any sort of reputation is going to help him.

So the underlying reason for ban is trolling. It's such a convenient rule that can be applied basically to every user here. Still there are thousands of users who are not banned.

What I have noticed is that he doesn't have patience for Dunning Krugers, so if he lets you (the general you) have it (and as he often does, quite bluntly so) perhaps instead of getting offended and taking the easy way out by labeling it as trolling you might consider evaluating your own knowledge about the subject and perhaps getting wiser by the process.

That would require people eating the humble pie though and knowing the human nature that won't happen so we are where we are. You can't force people to accept what they want to deny. We'll just have to wait and see how the things will play out eventually.

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So the underlying reason for ban is trolling. It's such a convenient rule that can be applied basically to every user here. Still there are thousands of users who are not banned.

That's why this guideline exists (from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0):

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 05:27:51 PM

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However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

You all seem to forget that I neither issued the bans (I requested for one on one of his ban evading accounts) nor have I AFAIK personally dealt with his previous alts. However, his demeanor and current actions (habitual ban evasion) signals me that it isn't far from the truth. Me labeling him as a troll wasn't because he disagreed with me, the forum's rules or the validity of his ban, it's because alongside the aforementioned actions and demeanor, he seems to behave like one whenever he hangs around here (e.g dismissing opinions because he "created million user software businesses all by himself" so other people's "words are useless", while continuing to instigate pointless, nonconstructive conflict for the heck of it).

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What I have noticed is that he doesn't have patience for Dunning Krugers, so if he lets you (the general you) have it (and as he often does, quite bluntly so) perhaps instead of getting offended and taking the easy way out by labeling it as trolling you might consider evaluating your own knowledge about the subject and perhaps getting wiser by the process.

That would require people eating the humble pie though and knowing the human nature that won't happen so we are where we are. You can't force people to accept what they want to deny. We'll just have to wait and see how the things will play out eventually.

Just like he dislikes people who think they're superior based on their position rather than capability (not quite sure why moderating the forum based on guidelines provided by the owner would make me that but who am I decide), I can't stomach self-entitled and/or self-righteous smug hypocrites with massive egos. While I agree that he makes some valid points (e.g. the general fragility of any centralized system), I can't respect someone who neither respects (both verbally and with his actions) the forum, it's moderation team nor me (the other side of the discussion) while also exhibiting the aforementioned character traits.

Quote from: John Titor on May 01, 2017, 01:38:48 PM

Wow, the mods of Bitcointalk really are disgusting human beings. Banning one of the only good posters they had left, but leaving signature campaigns alive and well, and doing nothing about the litany of scams being pushed through their site since early 2014.

mprep and Theymos, you are both terrible human beings and you are deliberately slowing down the advancement of crypto through your actions.
I don't know how you guys sleep at night

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Wow, the mods of Bitcointalk really are disgusting human beings.

[X] Call someone "disgusting human being" because you disagree with how they manage a privately owned forum.

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Banning one of the only good posters they had left, but leaving signature campaigns alive and well, and doing nothing about the litany of scams being pushed through their site since early 2014.

[X] Ignore https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0 as well as countless efforts by global mods to reduce sig spam while still maintaining a free space for constructive discussion.
[X] Ignore explanation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_faq) why possible scams aren't moderated and instead of reporting them to the authorities actually equipped with dealing with such matters, complain about it in a random thread.

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mprep and Theymos, you are both terrible human beings and you are deliberately slowing down the advancement of crypto through your actions.
I don't know how you guys sleep at night

[X] Make sure to finish off the post with another guilt trip, since your opinion is always right.

/s

If you don't like it here, feel free to start a new forum, get it popular and then fairly handle each and every scam accusation when there's hundreds of reports coming in every day, most of whom contain shaky/untrustworthy evidence, questionable witnesses while also lacking the capabilities the authorities have (e.g. valid court orders to discover identity of users or retrieve evidence, countless of highly-trained professionals in different fields (judges, investigators, etc.), several hundreds to sometimes thousands of years of laws and judicial practice governing how each case should be processed), who with all that power, still struggle to decide on who's guilty and who's not.