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No Polo + no dividends + buybacks = no insane volatility = good for holders, bad for traders.

Really ... price dumping while most other coins are up in green ... how is that good for holders ?
Can I be a trader without being also a holder? wtf do I trade if I am not holding anything?

Internet is awesome.

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/difference-investing-trading.asp

I bet you can look up the difference between short-term and long-term yourself.

Yes. Actually, no one can define "long term". Even Warren Buffet. And he have stocks for like 60 years. You can watch him on YT talking about it. In crypto world "Long term" is more than 3 months. So, you were saying....

I will try to translate:
In crypto, lunch money investments is not more than 3 months. After that we need to sell with profit, or we won't have more lunch money to play with.
And then we have nothing better to do all day, so we may just keep posting the same posts over and over again.

Here is a crypto world investors challenge for you:
https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI#balances

check the first page and tell me how much of them think that long term investment is 3 months of development?

I don`t buy lunch with x00 bitcoins. I hold. I expect xx00 BTC revenue from ICN. I am not a child. I didn`t insult anyone. But if you summarize your posts and actions, you will find that you have insulted many, many people. I think you are the most insulting person around.
So, I will translate it for you. You are talking with someone who have invested faaar more than you. Actually we are several people that have put serious money here. I don`t care if someone believe or not. You are trying to explain things that are far beyond your understandings. You are trying to keep this place "clean" by hiding the problems. Actually, this thread is dead. As the Slack. And all other channels will be, because of this attitude. Yours and Jani`s. Maybe it is time for different approach....

I will add clarification about "3 months" especially for you:
February - Stratis price = 8 cents. Now is 1.15$
February - Ether price = 10.60$. Now is 96.70$
February - Dash price = 16$. Now is 93$
February - ETC price = 1.37$. Now is 7.75$
October 2013 MtGox was handling 70% of all bitcoin transaction. 3 months later.... you know what happened.

3 months in crypto is not long term. It is like "forever".
Stop being childish. And I suggest that you should consult with someone how to handle a forum. Deleting FUD and trolling is ok, but you should know how to avoid offenses against other community members. It doesn`t matter if they put x00 or 0.xx BTC in ICN. You are not doing a favor to ICN. If you go and read other threads, you will find that this coin managed to make really bad name, because of you and Jani.

You forgot SIA _ was around 25sat, now it is 112
and few more

The point is the same - back then you, me and everyone else thought that ICN is worth buying. Some hoped to make fast profits and move on, and some saw the potential behind the project.
2 different things. What had changed is that everything else pumped why ICN gained "only" x4.
For you and other traders/flippers it makes it bad choice, for me and other investors it feels like fundamentals are strong, beta is excellent and it is a good opportunity to scoop more ICN before we take off.
It doesn't make ICN shit, it makes your choices bad.

And let's not compare bags. you don't know how much I have, and I don't know or care how much you have.
Lunch money is because of your posts here and in slack - you sound like a lunch money flipper (username checks out).

This is actually your first post worth reading.

No, the point is that we cannot shake of the feeling that they are intentionally suppressing the price. Actually we are sure they are doing it. No one can explain how such skillful guys can mess so much. And they aren`t. They have something in mind which I don`t think is fair to us. And it was planned from the beginning.
About the user name - what do you expect? If you give someone hundreds of thousands of dollars and he is treating you as $hit, of course you will choose idiotic name.
And banning will do nothing. It is easy to create new account. So, it is childish. Cause you can`t run multi-million project and delete or ban someone, cause he make comments you don`t like or you are feeling angry about him. When you are in such position, you don`t have the privilege to have emotions. And if you do, then why you should be angry at your investors, about how they are expressing their feelings or thoughts?