Quote from: minifrij on May 06, 2017, 02:20:21 AM

Quote from: the_end_is_near on May 06, 2017, 01:01:39 AM

His point is that banning public posts is a sufficient punishment, and moderation doesn't even apply to private communication between consenting parties.

If you have broken the rules of a specific website, what obligation does that website then have to facilitate anything for you?

Vindictiveness is not an attribute that coincides with the successful.

Also inane laws tend to be unenforceable. If the community doesn't think they are benefiting from the derelict rules, the community will route around the failure.

Quote from: minifrij on May 06, 2017, 02:20:21 AM

Quote from: the_end_is_near on May 06, 2017, 01:01:39 AM

Banning PMs (as a punishment inducement to follow policies on public posts) is totalitarianism which is antithetical to the concept of the Internet, decentralized money, etc.. It's as laughable and ignorable as mass media creating paywalls to destroy their readership. We'll simply say "no thanks" and route around the failure. (It is as if Theymos doesn't understand that we have 100s of options for communication these days, it isn't like he can sustain the illusionary monopoly that he thinks he has).

Precisely. If someone has had to have been forcefully removed from participating in a forum I see no reason for said forum to use it's resources to help that someone to communicate, especially so when there are 100s of other (possibly easier) options for doing so.

The resources consumed by PMs are less than a grain of sand at the beach compared to the revenues from advertising.

This is supposed to be the official forum for an open source Bitcoin which were mislead to believe no one controls. Theymos has a privileged position of receiving revenues from this and it behooves him to not do unnecessary vindictiveness which could incite the community to fork off.

For when we do finally fork off, the fork will be far superior and Theymos' forum will wither away and he will lose everything.

Vindictiveness is not a wise strategy.

Additionally, this was not a case of "had to have been forcefully removed". As it was explained to Theymos and @mprep upthread, there was no compelling reason. It's all just batshit insane.

Quote from: minifrij on May 06, 2017, 02:20:21 AM

Quote from: the_end_is_near on May 06, 2017, 01:01:39 AM

If this problem I have with Theymos was just small misunderstanding, then yes we could try to understand each other and find a way to work it out.

If you can find a method of contacting theymos and have him listen to the problems involving this forum then you will be even more sought after than it already seems you are. theymos doesn't care.

The smug confidence right before the fall off the cliff.

Did you not notice that Theymos posted in this thread.

And yes we know he doesn't care. He took all the BTC donations apparently promising to upgrade the forum software, then never did.

Are you somehow affiliated with the corruption?

Edit: I think the bottom line is that some of us are really not happy with the feature set of this forum. We've been trying to cope with it in varying degrees of disgust. In my case, I am a prolific poster, thus I am the point man (the martry or leader who takes the first bullets) for the problem at hand.

I think it is silly that we continue to argue. Those of you who are satisfied with BCT, then stay here. Those who are not, I may try to help us get what we want.

Then we can compare relative success from that point forward.

Competition is the best way to settle disputes. Butthurts so good is the way to admonish the vindictive pricks in the most satisfying but not revengeful manner. They can always come join the new party with their tail between their legs having their power castrated (the power granted to them their former corrupt regime).

I think it is very difficult for someone who is not a prolific, controversial poster to put themselves in the shoes of the person who is. I am so tired of having to fend off all the crab bucket mentality trolls, the threat of content being suddenly deleted makes the site not a reliable archive of content, thus it is really pointless to continue posting. Why would any one use a system which was so inefficient for them. BCT may be adequate for others and they may not have any compelling needs that are unmet by BCT. I don't really see a problem, as those of us who are unsatisfied can fork off.

However, I am saying that I detest the paradigm that is BCT and of course I think in the end most people will choose to move to a system that has a higher SNR and where the crab bucket mentality, vindictive shit can be filtered out more efficiently without censoring the data entirely (so that everyone has the freedom to read what they want and post what they want).

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