Quote from: freedomno1 on May 07, 2017, 11:19:32 AM

Quote from: criptix on May 06, 2017, 07:01:26 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 06, 2017, 07:04:34 AM

Quote from: Lieldoryn on May 05, 2017, 07:14:30 PM

It seems to me that they are already hardly breathe. Socialism is a parasite that devours its host. I think that without blood is not a cost. Let the whole world see their example of what happens when winning the elections the populists.

Then we look at the % of money westernized countries spend on healthcare costs and social services.
We sort of do have socialism.
https://static.nationalpriorities.org/images/charts/2015/taxes-desk.png

Please. In europe we have universal healthcare which cost less then the US american 3rd world healthcare system.

Universal healthcare has as much in common with socialism as hitler with ghandi.

Edit

Btw. And please dont read fake news. The only thing you need to be a doctor is a good memory.
A subpar student with good memory can easily finish a medcine degree.

True the American system is a bad example it is just the most cited because it fails so much. Cuba is socialist and by comparison has a far better patient to outcome return ratio for the cost it puts into it, they also export doctors in exchange their tuition is free and get revenues from that another focus they have is on preventative healthcare instead of treating the symptoms but not the disease.

Eurpoean healthcare depends on the location I would need a bit more specificity on the location you had in mind as a good example of it working. I am sure that even between different states in the EU the standard of healthcare is different with the % of cost that goes to funding it out of tax revenues varying and the patient outcome and wait times changing as well.

About your edit:
It depends on where you live and also to be douche about it if your degree is recognized and meets the standards to practice healthcare.
Entering into a nursing degree, what is the standard is to be considered a doctor in the country etc all determine the final cost.
But you got a point that was the higher end it just presumes people would apply to a prestigious medical school not a community college or public school to get it, that was my bad this one is more accurate on the cost. Still fairly high though.
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/student-finance/how-much-does-it-cost-study-us

The taxes thing just picked one that liked to use dollar illustrations more less but you will need to specify a good source I just copied the link from a Business Insider article so it seemed accurate though.
http://www.businessinsider.com/where-your-2013-tax-dollars-went-2014-4

@heathcare

I wasnt precise my bad. But with european i mean west, north and part of south europe (mainly scadinavian nations, germany, austria, switzerland, Luxembourg etc)

@education
I agree with this. But on the other side people who have a college degree will have it easier to find a better paying job as someone who has no degree.
I.e. a master degree takes in avg. 5 years. (I think in germany you have to study 5 years and test work 1 year to get a doctor of medcine)
After finishing a m.sc. you easily earn 50+% more the your colleague with no degree.

So if you find a job you are usually better off and the money you payed before amortises pretty quick.