Quote from: the_end_is_near on May 10, 2017, 12:12:11 AM

Quote from: ulhaq on May 09, 2017, 05:25:29 PM

Quote from: the_end_is_near on May 08, 2017, 01:02:45 AM

Yes I did. Make sure you get in the last word and totally ignore my point and my non-iatrogenic¹ plans.

¹ the ~~cure~~treatment is not worse than the illness; will not kill the patient

This is not correct. Iatrogenic means caused by a health care worker or medical treatment. Non-iatrogenic is not caused by a health care worker/medical treatment. The fact that your plans are not caused by the health system doesn't really have meaning.

Afaik, iatrogenic has a more general meaning which is when the treatment is worse than the disease. The analogy is when the improvement is worse than the problem it intends to improve. My mother being slow to adopt new technology, quipped that upgrade is an oxymoron.

Language morphs by usage. Following definition was written in 2011 and has 46 upvotes and only 1 downvote:

Quote from: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iatrogenic

A condition induced internally by a practitioner, not from external factors. Something which is created by ourselves, a contractor, or an internal service organization, making things worse instead of helping or making more efficient. Something that's done internally, supposedly within span of control and with a common mission, that works against a solution instead of towards it. The term is co-opted from medicine, where it means a condition induced by a physician.

The outage was iatrogenic in that it was nothing external to the company. The IT department itself caused it by not duplicating existing parameters when it replaced the firewall.

The issue is that there does not appear to be another candidate word that is suitable for the desired generalized meaning, thus this word is likely to be de facto adopted for the more general meaning.

I tend to be doing things years before most other people do. Strictly speaking it is any problem or side-effect caused by the treatment, not necessarily worse than the disease:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071124151410AAt7jgk

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis

While some [7] have advocated using 'iatrogenesis' to refer to all 'events caused by the health care delivery team', whether 'positive or negative', consensus limits use of 'iatrogenesis' to adverse, or, most broadly, to unintended outcomes.

Quote from: https://haveyouseenwhatisee.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/when-the-treatment-is-worse-than-the-disease/

When the Treatment is Worse than the Disease

A silent plague is sweeping our health care system. A surprisingly large number of people are more unwell as a result of the treatment they receive for an illness or injury. This may be the result of practitioner incompetence, inexperience, ignorance or the side effects and complications of treatment. These problems are known in the health industry as Iatrogenic Illness or Disease, literally meaning produced by medicine

Quote from: https://www.secondopinionnewsletter.com/Health-Alert-Archive/View-Archive/13621/When-the-cure-is-worse-than-the-disease.htm

When the cure is worse than the disease

First, most of the deaths are not excusable. They are preventable. Way back in 1993, after reviewing the statistics on iatrogenic deaths, a chief investigator in a Harvard study estimated that 78% of them were completely preventable. Iatrogenic is the word thats used to refer to injuries that happen directly from the medical treatment a patient receives.

I see. I have only used official dictionaries (which do change over time based on common usage) and see that there is probably an entirely separate general vocabulary being used by coders. The last 3 links you provide support the definition that I am familiar with, which seems far more commonly used. While there doesn't seem to be another word to describe your usage, I like the "Pyrrhic victory" linked in the Yahoo post, or in your case, a non-Pyrrhic victory.
Non-iatrogenic in your last post would be equivalent to salutary?