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How do you get welfare benefits, or any social welfare, without a valid and unique SSN?

Oh.. common... we are talking about a country where there is no ID proof requirement for voting. Once an illegal manages to enroll in the voters list, he can cast his ballot in any election.

I'll concede that, in one of the States that doesn't ID. But being on a voter roll doesn't make you a citizen, it doesn't confer a valid ID, and it doesn't make you eligible for SNAP benefits. Even if they did manage to vote. SNAP is a federal thing provisioned by the state. The requirements are the same in all states.

BTW, don't you think it's odd that for all the millions of illegal votes, none had abnormal vote counts? How do you add extra people to a system, that only counts votes attached to a social?

https://www.quora.com/How-easy-is-it-for-an-illegal-immigrant-to-vote-in-California

The main point is that illegal immigrants generally avoid any interaction with local, state, or the Federal government if at all possible....

No they don't. At least where the majority in the local culture talks Spanish, and where the immigrant is Mexican.

And pray tell where would that be? A place in America where the majority speaks Spanish, including law enforcement?

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Man it seems there's a lot of places you have not seen.

Or rather, this magical majority Spanish speaking place in the USA, doesn't exist. And yeah, I'm a homebody. Haven't travelled since I was a kid, in earnest at least.

Get out, go where the tacos and cold beer is, and have fun. Look for streets with lots of tire and hubcap shops. You can point at menu items and be understood. The key words are Cerveza and Tacos. Those will get you by.

Don't worry you will be accepted and sort of respected as one of the old white honkies. Just don't start prattling off that liberal horseshit or someone might decide you needed a lesson. They might be right, come to think of it.

I'm colored folk, for some reason I think me and the 'hombres' would be fine, I love vibrant culture, good food, and good people that can show me something different. And tacos are fucking delicious. The carnitas ones (slow cooker pork) are the best.

Although I'm a spirits guy, beer takes too long for me. Some tequila, racist bartender!

But seriously, you are describing SpanishTown USA. These are small communities in which the majority of residents are indeed Spanish speaking, but this doesn't include the law enforcement. Given that the majority of citizens in the US are white, the majority of police are as well, proportional. Ergo, no matter if the whole city speaks Spanish; the authorities that would interact with these 'bad hombres' and 'welfare queens' would not be the same ethnicity, and therefore have no tribal affiliation.

This is similar to ChinaTown USA, pretty much x town USA where x = an immigrant group that lives over here in a community. Shit, even whites and blacks do this, people always tend to cluster around others that share their culture. Not to their exclusion, but certainly for familiarity.

We have taken a diversion, but let's return to the priori dispute. I cited something that said that illegal immigrants avoid interaction with Leo's in order to avoid arrest, you disputed this with the assertion that this occurs in majority Spanish speaking communities. I concede that there are large concentrations of immigrants in these areas, but I advance that this still does not enable them the ability to vote, because of the nature of the process, and the language preferences of the community would not influence policing outcomes, as the police are typically of a different race than tthehe suspect, ESP in this situation.
I simply cannot envision a scenario where people would risk arrest to cast a vote, that barely even matters given the nature of the electoral college.

That's what elections are all about... in small towns especially. Get your people together and elect a mayor and town council who are going to do it your way if you don't like white cops. After all, some very big cities have many black and hispanic cops... even chiefs of police.

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