Quote from: OROBTC on May 12, 2017, 02:28:47 AM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on May 12, 2017, 02:22:02 AM

I'm complaining. loudly.

this is a pain in the butt for me, my company, and more importantly, new users who are trying bitcoin only to find its promise of fast cheap transactions may be not so cheap and certainly not fast.

Yeah, I'm complaining too about the same, but probably also for different reasons. The Stupid Civil War (SW v. BU) probably is scaring off potential newbies who are confused about what might happen... "Hard Fork" sounds very scary.

NO ONE (that I have read, anyway, even here at bitcointalk) has come along to encourage the Miner Wankers and the Developer Wankers to sit down and SOLVE this. Perfect examples of N. N. Taleb's "Intellectuals yet idiots".

Do I sound pissed off...?

people have... but devs have their fingers in ears and only want to do things the way THEY plan using THEIR road map that THEY designed without any community input.

here is one example of a solution
develop a NEW priority fee formulae that actually does a job

Quote from: franky1 on March 03, 2017, 06:33:29 AM

here is one example - not perfect. but think about it
imagine that we decided its acceptable that people should have a way to get priority if they have a lean tx and signal that they only want to spend funds once a day. (reasonable expectation)
where if they want to spend more often costs rise, if they want bloated tx, costs rise..

which then allows those that just pay their rent once a month or buys groceries every couple days to be ok using onchain bitcoin.. and where the costs of trying to spam the network (every block) becomes expensive where by they would be better off using LN. (for things like faucet raiding/day trading every 1-10 minutes)

so lets think about a priority fee thats not about rich vs poor(like the old one was) but about reducing respend spam and bloat.

lets imagine we actually use the tx age combined with CLTV to signal the network that a user is willing to add some maturity time if their tx age is under a day, to signal they want it confirmed but allowing themselves to be locked out of spending for an average of 24 hours.(thats what CLTV does)

and where the bloat of the tx vs the blocksize has some impact too... rather than the old formulae with was more about the value of the tx

as you can see its not about tx value. its about bloat and age.
this way
those not wanting to spend more than once a day and dont bloat the blocks get preferential treatment onchain ($0.01).
if you are willing to wait a day but your taking up 1% of the blockspace. you pay more ($0.44)
if you want to be a spammer spending every block. you pay the price($1.44)
and if you want to be a total ass-hat and be both bloated and respending EVERY BLOCK you pay the ultimate price($63.72)

note this is not perfect. but think about it