Quote from: mainpmf on May 12, 2017, 11:53:14 AM

Quote from: freeyourmind on May 12, 2017, 03:03:50 AM

I'm not sure you understood what I said, but quick to call others stupid. Obvious sign of a good dude
I'm not saying anything has fault...nor am I blaming private or public companies.

I'm not good. I'm an angry disgusted individual, obviously I won't pay any respect to systems, corporations and individuals that have enslaved my kind for centuries (not talking abou white vs blacks here)

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The marketplace dictates what the price of something will be based on simple supply and demand. Now the government can manipulate that based on decreasing or increasing supply or demand. Giving access to debt allows the price to increase and still have demand. Many are not price sensitive when it comes to education.

Yeah or by regulating price itself. Government can say "ok now a college tuition can't go higher than 2000$"

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You think public service in the USA is better than private? I don't think many would agree with you. Do you enjoy the customer experience of being in the DMV? The public organization with no legal competition. The monopolized public service. It's a terrible customer experience, and the tax payers are forced to do business with them. You can't go anywhere else to get a licence.

I don't see your point, I just talked about co existing private and public...

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I don't think "private" or "public" businesses are bad. It depends on how they're implemented and executed. Our current public service is inefficient and has a poor level of service for the cost. I don't think many would disagree (I live in Canada, but I'd say this for North America in general). If the government hired passionate and interested people only, and minimized corruption and special interests, it could absolutely be great. But it's not that way right now.

Arf, if you think public healthcare is bad in Canada go look at the one in USA...

I'll make an easy comparison for you:
Healthcare industry is 5% of wealth production in France
It's 12% in USA
Guess who's more efficient here? Private or public?

I have nothing against your opinion of government or the system. What kind of slavery do you speak of?

Prices can be regulated possibly, but the more common approach is to leave the price as it is and "subsidize" the cost for the buyer. So prices will remain high, but a portion of our taxes would go towards the payment. They can manipulate it either way really.

The point was that you said to give an example where private companies offer better service than public, and I gave an example of pathetic public service. You wouldn't get that with a private company because you can simply choose not to do business with them ever again. Eventually if everyone shared that sentiment, they'd have to improve their service or eventually go out of business.

I never said the health care in Canada is bad. It's okay, but it is expensive and takes up a large chunk of our taxes. But I know of wealthier folks that need serious medical attention fly over to the states to get their procedures done.

I'm not sure where you got the France vs. USA healthcare dollars from, but let's assume it's accurate. You realize that the USA has a reactive healthcare system right? And that the USA has by far the most unhealthy population in the world, which would require more reactive health care??
The reason it has a high dollar amount is because of the # of customers (unhealthy people requiring medical attention). Europe in general is much more health conscious and eats more whole foods/less processed foods. Finland for example has chef's in schools that teach kids about cooking and eating healthy. I grew up with a cafeteria that sold burgers, pizza and fries, a McDonalds next to our high school and a vending machine that only sold pop/soda. Why would we be as healthy as France? Unless you take your health into your own hands, educate yourself on diet and have routine physical activity, the default is to eat garbage and get obese...and look at who has the most obese population in the world.