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You contradict yourself. According to the definition of religion (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t), whatever you believe in is a religion for you. Nobody, not even you, can walk around without having any beliefs whatsoever.

A sane person will believe in things that seem logical. It is not logical to believe that science theory is fact when it is acknowledged by scientists to not be know to be fact. Belief in science theory as fact is religious belief.

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Wrong.
Science is not a religion. You say that theories are acknowledged by scientists to not be facts?
Well that's the very difference between theories and theorems... But only few theories remain. Most science aspects have been proven right now.

Could you give an example of a scientific theory that is not proven? Cause the only ones I see are... Well no scientist "believe in them" they just find those theories interesting and we think it MIGHT be the answer but that's all.

I agree with you that science is not religion. So you are wrong with your "wrong," because I didn't say that science is religion.

If science theories had been proven, they would be science laws. The fact that they remain theories shows that they have not been proven.

People who believe unproven things to be fact, have religion going for themselves. Science theories are not religion. Only the people who believe that they are factual when it is not known, are the people who have a religion going for themselves in the science theories.

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By definition of religion is a belief of existence of a divinity or supreme being. Religion and belief are two word with different meanings. I believe that vegetables are healthy then does that mean this is a religion? No of course. I believe that democracy is the best form of government then does this mean this is a religion? Of course not. You see science is not a religion but rather a systematic and organize body of knowledge and logical reasonings by the help of actual evidences. The theories which they have not proven yet or not certain like Big Bang is an example that they do use the evidences they have gathered to unravel history but at the same time they stated that they are unsure due to lack of evidence of proofs regarding this. The point is science is not a religion.

Don't get me wrong and saying that I'm an atheist or what. It is just that you have a wrong definition of religion there.

Definition of religion:

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religion
[ri-lij-uh n]

noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.

5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.

8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.

As you can see from the definition, religion does not necessarily always pertain to a supreme being.

If you tell yourself and others that you believe that vegetables are healthy, you may not really believe it. But if you do really believe it, it is part of your religion of life... by the definition.

If you tell yourself and others that you believe that democracy is the best form of government, you may not really believe it. But if you do really believe it, it is part of your religion of life... by the definition.

As I have stated, above, science is not a religion. Even science theories are not a religion. But, if you tell yourself and others that you believe that the subject of a science theory is factual when you know that it is not, you may not really believe it. But if you do really believe it, it is part of your religion of life... by the definition.

You might have your own definition of religion, or there might be several different public definitions of religion, but when you get into the detailed definition of religion that is shown in various encyclopedias, the, above, definition is one of the most accurate.

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You don't make sense actually like saying not believing then believing and concludes that it is a religio of life. Can't you read it and understand the definition you have given? What the hell that you are saying by believung vegetables are healthy that it is a religion of life you say? Examine the definitions with scrutinity no just understanding thay believing or belief into something equates to religion because it is not. It requires ritual as it state, a devotion, faith, fundamental set of beliefs, practices. It is indirectly stated that religion has something to do i worshipping someone or something that is either a God or considered to be God like in the ancient times where people worship trees, seas, rivers and etc. This involves some practices like praying, singing, and performing some rituals. Also it afdects how you live your life like you tend not to cut trees in ancient times because they believe that it will anger the spirit or spirits or a god or gods by doing so.

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from Merriam-Webster Dictionary

re·li·gion\ri-ˈli-jən\
noun

: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

Full Definition
1 a : the state of a religious
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

Examples
Many people turn to religion for comfort in a time of crisis.
There are many religions, such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, and Judaism.
Shinto is a religion that is unique to Japan.

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google defines religion as:

re·li·gion
/rəˈlijən/
noun

noun: religion

》the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
》》》》"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
》》》》synonyms: faith, belief, worship, creed; More
》sect, church, cult, denomination
》》》》"the freedom to practice their own religion"
a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"
》a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
》》》》"consumerism is the new religion"

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and Wikepedia also defines religion as:

Religion is any cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sancitifed places, ethics, or organizations, that relate humanity to the supernatural or transcendental. Religions relate humanity to what anthropologist Clifford Geertz has referred to as a cosmic "order of existence".[1]

Different religions may or may not contain various elements ranging from the "divine",[2] "sacred things",[3] "faith",[4] a "supernatural being or supernatural beings"[5] or "some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life".[6] Religious practices may include rituals, sermons, commemoration or veneration (of deities), sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trances, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, prayer, music, art, dance, public service, or other aspects of human culture. Religions have sacred histories and narratives, which may be preserved in sacred scriptures, and symbols and holy places, that aim mostly to give a meaning to life. Religions may contain symbolic stories, which are sometimes said by followers to be true, that have the side purpose of explaining the origin of life, the Universe and other things. Traditionally, faith, in addition to reason, has been considered a source of religious beliefs.[7] There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide.[8] About 84% of the world's population is affiliated with one of the five largest religions, namely Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or forms of folk religion.[9]

With the onset of the modernisation of and the scientific revolution in the western world, some aspects of religion have cumulatively been criticized. The religiously unaffiliated demographic include those who do not identify with any particular religion, atheists and agnostics. While the religiously unaffiliated have grown globally, many of the religiously unaffiliated still have various religious beliefs.[10] About 16% of the world's population is religiously unaffiliated.[9] The study of religion encompasses a wide variety of academic disciplines, including theology, comparative religion and social scientific studies. Theories of religion offer various explanations for the origins and workings of religion.

I hope that's enough for you. Not even one in those definitions agreed that by believing vegetables healthy or democracy as good government is a religion. Improve your comprehension please.