Quote from: trackpantsboner on June 09, 2011, 12:20:08 PM

The owner ... put paypal up as an option and it was a very valuable option for many of us.

and its against paypal terms of service ... it should never had been an option suggested by bitcoinmarket to begin with knowing they would terminate sales ... additionally bitcoinmarket never stated using paypal was against there tos when he knew full well it was agains the payal tos, which is why bitcoinmarket specifically chose not to perform those transactions itself, while never advising their clients they were suggesting it to that it was indeed against the paypal tos ... I believe bitcoinmarket holds a fiduciary responsibility and liability here.

Quote from: rhino on June 09, 2011, 12:36:29 PM

what is Paypal's issue with it? I presently have some open cases with Paypal's large business engagement ghosts trying to find answers to these very things. So far they have been useless, but I'm persisting.

We can speculate until the cows come home, but the fact remains its against the tos. If people did not know it was against the tos we must ask whos fault it is then. The user who lost because they did not read the tos daily, or the one who suggested its use ? Or the ones who knew but went ahead anyway and took a chance. You wont win a paypal dispute concerning bitcoins. Its automatic refund.

Quote from: Cdecker on June 09, 2011, 12:49:34 PM

Yup, got scammed by b4rrydoyle (5184) too. It's just 20 BTC but still... Hopefully dwdollar can publish the payout address for those scammers so we can start collecting all addresses they're using and start to track them.

How are you going to prove you got scammed and didnt receieve the funds without someone "trusting you" and your word without any official confirmation from paypal? Alterable text or screen shots? Your good word Huh

Quote from: dwdollar on June 09, 2011, 02:41:19 PM

I know there were new people who didn't fully understand the risks involved. I'm sorry about that. I will make it very explicit if I continue with PayPal.

Thank you for admitting you liability and responsibility by your failure to advise your members that the conduit for exchange you suggest by placing on your site is 100% untrustable, just so you can make a profit.

... yet he is not taking the moral and ethical high road and proper reputable business strategy by refunding your money or bitcoins ...

He might as well be saying, "... sorry folks I caused you to get ripped off, but oh well thats the breaks ..."

My oh my - what a wonderful way to run a business and add reputation to the BitCoin system. /sarcasm

Until he does start acting like a real reputable business and refunds peoples losses caused by him, please avoid dwdollar and BitCoinMarket at all costs. He doesnt care about you or the BitCoin System ... he cares only about the BitCoins and cash he can skim off of you. Please use a reputable exchange.