Quote from: franky1 on May 23, 2017, 03:02:20 PM

Quote from: BillyBobZorton on May 23, 2017, 02:51:56 PM

nodes on datacenters is centralized.

LOL
you can bait and switch the crap all you like..
you keep parroting the "gigabytes by midnight" nonsense
you keep thinking no witness/prunned nodes (which are not full nodes) is good
you keep thinking cludgy temporary no promise half measure are good
you keep thinking keeping blocks at 1mb to force people into LN permissioned contracts hubs is good

all in all its the same DCG blockstream roadmap or nothing..

you can pretend barry is jihan puppet master, when we all know that he is part of the blockstream one road cartel

all in all its the same DCG blockstream roadmap or nothing..
silbert is the blockstream cartel.

Quote from: BillyBobZorton on May 23, 2017, 02:51:56 PM

Jihan owns way more than 16%, Jihan has unlimited PBOC and ASICBOOST money to keep bribing companies that don't care about anything but money.

Economic majority wants segwit, economic majority rejects BUcoin.

Lightning network with segwit is decentralized, nodes on datacenters is centralized.

you can bait and switch the crap all you like..
silbert is the blockstream cartel.
http://dcg.co/portfolio/

Facts:

Bitcoin running under datacenters (ultimate goal of big blockers) = network centralized at layer 0.

Bitcoin running under an array of decentralized actors running nodes = network decentralized at layer 0.

Even if LN was a disaster and centralized bitcoin at layer 1 (it doesn't), the core of the network would still function in a decentralized way. We the common folk, would still have the power of full validating nodes to take action.

There would be no way out if the core of the network (layer 0) was running under Bitmain Corp. We wouldn't have full nodes to plan anything, we wouldn't have anything, and this is what CIA agents like Gavin and paid shills like you are parroting.

You can keep trying to discuss if 2+2 is or isn't 4, im not up to waste time doing so.