Quote from: myrkul on April 23, 2013, 05:05:38 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on April 23, 2013, 05:00:56 AM

Quote from: myrkul on April 23, 2013, 04:38:14 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on April 23, 2013, 04:27:12 AM

That said, it is irresponsible to drive when one is totally exhausted also, and if they do so with extreme negligence and kill someone because of it then they should suffer the consequences as well. Jury of one's peers...it can be a bitch...cry me a river.

I agree. It is irresponsible to drive impaired, for whatever reason. And if you cause an accident - again, for whatever reason - you should suffer the consequences. But I don't think anyone should be punished for pre-crime. Merely getting on the road increases the risk for every other driver on that road. If you really want to limit risk, we should outlaw driving entirely.

Balance of reason. That's how democracy works (and pretty much every other social system for that matter.) Suck it up...or move to one of the Libertarian or Anarchist micro-nations if you can catch one before it goes defunct.

Democracy is based on a logical fallacy: that three men make a tiger.

It's working acceptably well for me and most of the people I know, but YMMV. Working as well as can be expected, though there is certainly room for improvement. And welcoming drunk drivers to menace everyone who wishes to get from point-A to point-B is hardly along the the lines of what would appeal to most people.

Quote from: myrkul on April 23, 2013, 05:05:38 AM

Would you like to know how I would fix the problem? (no, it's not by letting everyone drive drunk on all the roads.)

My solution would be along the lines of subsidizing the aformentioned micro-nations enough to keep them operational and thus, hopefully, help keep the BFL types from contaminating ours.