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Government people are ever so smart. They know what is best for me. That's why they have to take my property, because they aren't smart enough to earn it on their own.

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They earn property the same way everybody else does, by taking it from others.

Taxation isn't free trade. Taxation isn't fair, because some people get more than they paid for, and some people get less.

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Yes, the taxation is absolutely incorrectly constructed and in some cases it is not even necessary. The state simply wants to control all the money in the country.

There is no such thing as "the state".

It is a mental construct.

It exists only because people create it and maintain it from moment to moment.

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More practically, what you call "the state" is any particular individual who acts in what he or she thinks is the interests of that construct. A poor soul, what Carl Jung called "a mass man", who has no individual identity but projects their will onto a construct in place of the heroes and legends that serve for more healthy growth.

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Even more practically, there are services that are necessary and which are difficult for one person to arrange. For that reason taxation is appropriate in allowing useful projects. Unfortunately the mass creatures, or "servents of the beast" or whatever you want to call them, have inflicted their pathology on the system and turned useful and necessary things into problems.

I'm sure that practically people pay taxes is in slavery in the state itself. And it's all because these taxes are imposed and often they even exceed the permissible standards. Of course I understand that there are countries with liberal laws, concerning taxation, but this is not always the case.

We, for example, have taxes exceeding permissible norms and the state specifically does not allow a person to develop. At the same time, there is no support in the country for free medical care or education.