Quote from: Wa(t)ch_night() on May 24, 2017, 08:26:26 PM

Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on May 24, 2017, 04:08:02 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on May 24, 2017, 01:39:01 PM

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Quote from: mainpmf on May 23, 2017, 01:06:49 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on May 23, 2017, 01:03:18 PM

Who knows? Maybe the master plan is to reduce worldwide Muslim population by proxy war with ISIS.

Arm Iran (by Russia, China), arm Saudis (US, Germany), ISIS and Iraqis, Syrian factions, Kurds, Turkey etc.

Let them fight each other to reduce the number of Muslims worldwide.

You sit, count the money and count the bodies (Muslim and non-Muslim)....

Problem with this plan is that it just takes too long...and in the end you'll not solve the root cause of the problem.

Jihadist ideology is part of Islam that is the root cause.

SUre!
Can't be inequality of wealth and constant exterior destabilization in order to take natural ressources.
Must be Islam.

I mean come on, we all know that the real problem is Islam, and there is a great correlation between the two because as we all know terrorism started with Islam! Wait... Didn't it started after the whole numerous wars in Middle East?

No, can't be that. Can't be our fault.

Yeah it's Islam!

Continue going back in time and you'll eventually see the problem...

If we go back in time what do we see?
Few wars between ottoman empire and west.
Colonization.
Crusades.
Shit like this?
Wanna count the points?
Not sure West is the winner here...

Of course they aren't. The West, as a whole, didn't become an major aggressor in the Middle East until much, much later after it has become rich from wealth pouring from the colonies and has basically surpassed the Muslims in technology. The Crusades are more of an anomaly and bound to fail anyway. The Middle East was already fucked up under the Ottomans, and became fuckedx2 once the borders were drawn when the empire shrunk and became Turkey.

I have never seen the President of America so much in friendly relations with the leaders of the Arab countries. Apparently money is doing its job and financial matters are much more important than the issue of religion or politics in general. So it's better Let it be so than war in delusions.

More like the realities of politics finally caught up to him. This was OK during campaigns to get the people to believe him but cutting off contact would be messy.

And so the SaudiXAmerica love/hate story continues...

Quote from: Snail2 on May 25, 2017, 09:42:51 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on May 24, 2017, 01:39:01 PM

If we go back in time what do we see?
Few wars between ottoman empire and west.
Colonization.
Crusades.
Shit like this?
Wanna count the points?
Not sure West is the winner here...

The West will win. Those arabs are divided in every possible way and as the wahhabis and Iran gaining ground, those divisions are getting deeper and deeper every day.

Crusades were a natural answer to the earlier muslim invasion of Europe (Spain, Sicily, France, Italy and the Byzantine territories, Armenia, Georgia). After the beginning or the Reconquista, recapturing Sicily, Malta, Rhodes and Cyprus, bringing the war back to the Middle East was the best defence against further incursions and also relived the pressure on the Byzantine Empire. So the tusken were kept at bay and away from our lands for nearly 200 years what gave us enough time to prepare for the next invasion (ottomans).

The ottomans occupied the whole Balkans, the Romanian principalities, half of Hungary, South Ukraine and repeatedly launched large scale attacks towards the west.

So, mate who used to invade whom?

And now you've allowed them to come in unchecked. Have you seen what's happening here in the Philippines? Plenty of them will not integrate.