Quote from: Mendeleev on May 29, 2017, 01:41:29 PM

What are you talking about "selective quotes"? I just don't include your whole post, so that it's not a big wall of text. The links to your original posts are still there. Nothing is taken out of context. It's just a cleaner way to respond to you. Calm down.

I've not said they lied, or "muh dividends" either. And I agree that there might be issues beyond their control which are causing the changes. You're ascribing meaning/intent to my post that simply isn't there.

I also agree people can just get out if they don't like it. That doesn't mean the matter is off the table for discussion.

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Where is the value? People could use their head for a chance. Value is a sum of assets under management and future speculations.

Then please ask for that to be added to the terminology page. ICNX and ICNP have much more detailed explanations on there. ICN's entry is just like "Err, ICN is an ERC20 token that we gave people at the ICO".

Again, your summation of where the value comes from is currently meaningless. There's an important factor in determining value that you, and others, seem to be misunderstanding - and it seems difficult to communicate to you just what that is. But it is clear that others understand this, which is why questions are asked. It doesn't mean they aren't using their heads. It means they are using their heads. Your defensive stance on this matter does nobody any good.

SIA is a good example of a token that has a clear value, by the way. ICN is (currently) not.

As for the AMA... it is much simpler to complete the first one. The questions are already there, ready to be answered. Additionally, the team are effectively granted extra chance to come up with the answers (i.e. the questions are a month old, so it's easier than answering a brand new question on the day). This works out great for the people who asked the questions last time, and it makes it easier for the team. And it will also look good for the team to say "Hey guys, we've finished answering all of those questions!" and then hold a fresh AMA a month from now. That would make a lot of people happy.

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What are you talking about "selective quotes"?

As you took just the doggie example and you based your respond on it, instead of the context in which it was said.

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I've not said they lied, or "muh dividends" either.

I clearly wasn't referring to you since I replied to someone else, but you already know that

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SIA is a good example of a token that has a clear value, by the way. ICN is (currently) not.

Care to explain how SIA has a clear value and Iconomi doesn't? SIA is still deep in the beta stage with some users using the network. (don't know how much)
Iconomi is at the end of the beta phase with few hundred users at least that are using the platform.

If we take out the future speculation out of the equation, in both cases we can see the "net" value which is user-base.
For SIA - the more hosts/users are actively using its network - the more SIA tokens are needed/locked
For Iconomi - the more users are using the platform, the more fees are collected and the more ICN tokens are burned
What's not clear about it?

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Again, your summation of where the value comes from is currently meaningless. There's an important factor in determining value that you, and others, seem to be misunderstanding - and it seems difficult to communicate to you just what that is.

Please make the efforts and try