Quote from: Elwar on April 24, 2013, 11:41:32 AM

Quote from: Hawker on April 24, 2013, 10:26:16 AM

Oh well, when you come back to planet Earth, where using force to maintain a stable society is needed, do let us know.

However you need to justify it. I know that it is wrong to initiate force. But I understand that tyranny exists because people accept it in exchange for goodies.

The correct way to look at it is that wealth and income are created by the state providing a safe legal and social environment. In countries like the US with well run systems, the wealth created is huge. The recipients of this largesse pay some of it in taxes. Take away the taxes and you take away the safe legal and social environment and US incomes fall to the levels of Somalia. Its perfectly moral to insist that those who are lucky enough to profit from living in a well run state make a contribution to the running costs of that state.