Quote from: Hawker on April 26, 2013, 04:41:32 PM

Quote from: Traktion on April 26, 2013, 04:23:18 PM

Quote from: Hawker on April 26, 2013, 04:02:30 PM

Quote from: Traktion on April 26, 2013, 03:38:25 PM

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Inefficient? Paying $75 a year in subs is hardly complicated.

The car on my drive is paid for too, but that doesn't mean get to threaten me if I don't chauffeur you around in it.

Its inefficient on 2 levels:

1. The value of the house has been lost - for all you know the owner had senile dementia or was illiterate or had some other perfectly valid reason for sucking at paperwork. So wealth has been destroyed for no good reason.
2. its cheaper to collect things like the costs of police, roads, fire service, schools and health through the tax system than to have separate bureacracies for each. So even if everyone pays the $75, its still inefficient.

1. If they had paid their $75, they wouldn't have lost their house. If they needed advice, they should have requested it - even the state could help them to pay their voluntary $75, rather than just demanding it.

2. Stealing stuff may be easier for the thief, but it removes the choice of the victim. It may be more efficient for me to come and take your car, rather than earning + buying one from a dealer too. I assume you are against such actions?

BTW, there are many inefficient state departments which would never survive in a voluntary model. I don't know where you get the idea from that the state is efficient, tbh.

Again, there may have been a valid reason for the person not paying $75. You want to make this a morality play - it's not.

Taxation is the most efficient way to pay for services like police, fire, defence and the like. Unless you are a bureaucrat yourself, you would have no interest in creating parallel billing systems for such services.

Someone may have a valid reason for not paying a tax, but that doesn't stop the state throwing them in jail.

If someone can't figure out how to pay £75 a year for insurance, they have bigger problems... such as buying food. Let's stop with this silly excuse.

Taxation is not an efficient way to pay for monopolistic services. There is no competition for said departments, which gives little pressure for them to improve their service.

Even if they were more efficient, it doesn't justify using force to make everyone pay for them, whether they use/want them or not.