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Religions made a lot of damage to human beings and our world in general. I'm not talking only about Islam, but every kind of religion, more or less, caused lots of problems.

I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?

Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?

First, people made a lot of damage, not religion.
Second, a lot people, inspired by faith, did many great things for humanity like serving the poor, ill, homeless people etc.
They even opened the hospitals, schools, started charities...
Lastly, if man created religion, it will disappear.
If God created religion, it will last forever.

.I am greatly touched by this reply, and i really salute you for saying that one. It has really the sense and the point on why religions are imbalanced and unfair. People nowadays mistakenly worshipping their religion instead of worshipping God, religion also is one of the factors of discrimination and even serves as racist and thats what people believes.

So you actually agree with that nonsense?

Let's analyse it..

"First, people made a lot of damage, not religion"
Please think of it like this: Religion is your mind. Your mind is your body. Religion has influence on your mind, which has influence on what your body does. Therefore, religion has done a lot of damage.. It's like saying the body of Adolf Hitler was doing all of those bad things.. But no! It was his mind, which put his body into doing it, just like all the religions put people's minds into doing bad things.

"Second, a lot people, inspired by faith, did many great things for humanity like serving the poor, ill, homeless people etc."
A lot of people, not even inspired by faith, did the same.
A lot of people, inspired by faith, did the opposit. They killed alot of people! We now got IS, but in the past there have been many other cases of religion inspiring people to do terrible things.

"Lastly, if man created religion, it will disappear.
If God created religion, it will last forever."
Incorrect. If it was created by humanity, it might disappear. It doesn't have to disappear.
If it was created by god, it might last forever.. What if god thinks the terror of religions has gone too far, so he stops religions?

It's just nonsense Kiss

You are completely wrong here.
Religion is just institution, organized faith, not state of mind.
A lot people inspired with wish to help others, did many great things for others.
They all have some kind of faith, either in God, goodness, humanity etc.
God is absolute beings and everything He created is absolute, unchanging.
We are not absolute beings, and our rules are laws are not absolute but changeable, relative.
Everything depends of current political or social trend.
Only God never change.
So, only if absolute, unchanging being started something, it will last forever and never change.
If started by changeable, created beings, without absolute values, it will collapse, soon or later.

It's not a state of mind. I said it influences the mind. That's the whole problem with religion.
Yes, people did many great things for others, inspired by religions. But do you really think that their religion was the only reason they would help others? I don't.
Everyone has faith in something, true, but believing in god means you do whatever he says... And that means that if you interpret something wrong, you can do terrible things.

Wait... God is absolute and everything he created is absolute? Then what the hell has he ever made? I haven't seen anything with that description yet.
So God never changes? So basically he hasn't done anything? Whenever you do something, you change. So he has just always been "frozen"?

So if anything God has made is absolute... What has he made? Please tell me! (Besides "religion", because that's a nearly forever waging discussion)
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Regards,
Trump

Religion is just institution created by man, and can't influence our mind.
Only God can.
God is absolute but we aren't. We just have potential for it.
God didn't want to create us are simple robots (someone capably just to follow orders), but He gave us free will, so that we can have choice- follow God or don't follow.
If we truly follow God we find peace, love, eternal life etc.
If we don't follow God, result can be temporary happiness but we loose eternal life.
So, God created us with absolute will, as beings with great potential but it's up to us if we will fulfill our part of responsibility and use our free will in order to become perfect and absolute as our creator- God.