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You can't "prove" scientifically that God exists because that would require him to be physical, visible. He is outside of his creation, although he can and has entered into it.

You can't know that. You can say the same about the flying spaghetti monster instead of God and boom there you have it, now the flying spaghetti monster is the creator and you will never be able to prove it or disprove it because he lives outside time and space and its not physical.

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Now you are bringing religion into it. The FSM isn't shown by science proof at all. Probability the scientific proof that God exists leaves open the idea that God might be the FSM. That is the failure of scientists in their observations, so far.

We are so far from scientific knowledge about what God is like that, revelation from God is the only thing that we have that can show what God is really like.

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''We are so far from scientific knowledge about what God is like that, revelation from God is the only thing that we have that can show what God is really like.''
Circular reference

Not a reference at all, since God has been scientifically proven to exist:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

And this new one that you ignored, of course Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19666684#msg19666684

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It's only your misunderstanding and fad faith that suggests that the proof for God has been debunked.

Get write in here. Write the debunking out yourself. If you don't, you are showing you don't have any.

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Sure, your argument is based on cause and effect that you keep mentioning every single thread. Even if everything has a cause (which we dont know) your argument fails to prove what the first cause is since it provides no evidence for it. You say it's god but it could very easily be something else or gods or multiple causes or the universe may not even have a cause or maybe a multi verse exists.

Cause and effect is so extremely overwhelming in everything that we see, that science has made it a scientific law and principle... one of the basic laws and principles.

The thing that would be opposite of cause and effect, would be pure random. Study pure random to see that there is no example of it anywhere, and that such a thing is impossible in an ordered universe such as ours.

We are so extremely limited in our understanding about much of anything, that it is very difficult to see what God is made up of. If it takes thousands of angels to "build" the universe, then thousands of angels, combined, are God. If it takes a wisp of stardust to make the universe, then that stardust is God. If the holes in big bang theory were ever filled, then BB might be shown to be God.

Not that I want to get into religion here, but the Bible talks about the Holy Trinity (without using the word Trinity). God is made up of 3 Persons in one God. The Revelation talks about the Seven Spirits of God (Sevenfold spirit of God).

The thing I am talking about is God, not what He is made out of.

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So a wisp of stardust is god. Horace, you definitely have a new episode here

And that ^^^ entirely proves your lack of good faith in this topic.

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Why are you bringing religion into this? This is scientific proof for god and yet no one has presented any good scientific proof to prove god.

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