Quote from: pizza on April 28, 2013, 06:25:51 PM

All of the comments are based on flawed logic. They all assume higher difficulty at the same bitcoin price which is retarded.

The price of bitcoin could very well increase to $500,$750,$1000,$1000+ so arguing anything about profitability is just insane as there are so many variables.

Since when was Bitcoin price based on difficulty? You really think that $500 let alone $1000 range is plausible?

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on April 28, 2013, 06:48:05 PM

Quote from: FlappySocks on April 28, 2013, 06:38:34 PM

Isn't the Mars supposed to be available in "days"? Then now is the time to speculate.

I registered my interest in the Mars, and had they taken my money last week, I would have snapped it up. But looking at all those orders for Avalon ASICs by the DIYers, the landscape looks different. The genie is out of the bottle, and I'm reluctant to invest in anything beyond a 2 month ROI now.

Even at today's difficulty Mars would be a 2 month ROI. That's not happening if Butterfly arrive in that duration of time, let alone more Avalon and DIYers

Sorry Pizza, I catch your drift, but FlappySock's comment was concurrent with today's sp.

Yup thats what I fear the most. All those who have ordered so many Avalon chips and make their own devices. We see news about Jalapenos reaching customers each day now. BFL already showcased the finished 50GH/s miner, ready to be built and shipped to customers

kncminer got nothing, other than some simple drawing on their website.