Quote from: AgentofCoin on June 22, 2017, 12:00:39 AM

Quote from: franky1 on June 21, 2017, 07:58:07 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on June 21, 2017, 07:22:34 PM

blah

nope..
sorry but its devs that end up controlling things..
you only think pools have control because the DEVS programmed their implementation to avoid consensus and allow pools to be the vote.
however pools are limited by the rules laid out by the implementations .. these rules are programmed by the DEVs

As usual, we disagree. Devs have no true power, since they are external.
For the sake of being as clear as I can, since the full system is complicated,
below is a visual representation I just made to explain my point of view.

As you can see, the developers are only one part of the Community Consensus.
If other community members wish to circumvent the developers, they could by creating
a new reference client (which has new rules). That is currently what has occurred with
SegWit2x. My understanding is a majority of Core devs do not support it, but that hasn't
stopped the other community members from creating and promising to support the
new reference client. Without majority Consensus, this is considered an attack.

So simply, Miner centralization is more powerful and threatening to the Bitcoin Ecosystem,
than perceived centralized developers. The reality is that blaming the developers is simple
scapegoating to attain more power for Bitcoin's internal systems by manipulating Bitcoin's
external systems. Blaming devs is like slight of hand. Security will be sacrificed for financial
gains and more power for centralized miners.

Terrible picture.