Quote from: PuertoLibre on April 29, 2013, 09:57:16 PM

Quote from: grue on April 29, 2013, 09:34:14 PM

Quote from: Inaba on April 29, 2013, 08:45:49 PM

I don't see how BFL stopped him from buying 23 BTC at any time, can you please post where BFL forbids people from purchasing BTC once they purchase one of our products, which are sold for USD (Not BTC)?

You can't? Oh, then your argument is fallacious. Nice try at rationalizing a false premise, though. Well, actually, no it's not. It's pretty sophomoric and elementary.

Quote from: erk on April 29, 2013, 08:56:22 PM

The trolls have shifted their stance from "BFL has never shipped" to people could have done X with their pre-payment money.

In the real world people can wait for many months for a house to be built with a deposit much larger than the cost of a BFL device, and they are perfectly happy with that, as long as the builder doesn't go bust and they get their house in the end.

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Quote from: grue on April 29, 2013, 08:28:34 PM

Quote from: minternj on April 29, 2013, 08:24:57 PM

Hindsight my friend. BTC could have went to zero too. this is a weak argument.

The value and income of bitcoin mining devices is tied to the value of bitcoin. Unlike gpus, ASIC can't be resold for other purposes. Therefore, by buying a BFL ASIC, he was still at the whim of BTC prices.

when you're buying a mining device, you're essentially paying now to get bitcoins later.

Spot on!

In this case BFL failed to deliver on time. Hence, you lost the opportunity to mine several (thousand) Bitcoins [and counting] if they had shipped when they were scheduled to ship.

They can`t ship them out until they have mined enough money for themselves with the boards. "Testing units" according to them Roll Eyes