Quote from: Dexter12 on June 27, 2017, 10:47:47 PM

Quote from: HomoHenning on June 27, 2017, 09:52:27 PM

Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 27, 2017, 02:56:22 PM

Quote from: cyberhacker on June 27, 2017, 02:41:06 PM

Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 27, 2017, 02:33:30 PM

would you plz calm down?

we are willingly "scamed" by this great project.

plz. most contributors are feeling very comfortable with current situation and future.

don't bother taking care of us.

Some of you already drank the Kool-Aid. It's too late for you, but there are other people out there considering investing in XEL. Those are the people who need to know the full story so they don't get scammed.

there is no scam, because there is a real working product now. this is only what matters now to potential investors.
Also the topic donations / lannister is well explained on the elastic website. nobody is hiding or deleting any information

He/She/it will not understand that. Not a single DONATOR got scammed.
Stop spreading lies.

It started as an ICO/IPO not a donation campaign, conveniently the conditions were changed in the middle

Lannister/ElasticCoin/Lionel Keys was supposed to give out information about his identity but conveniently he never did

Out of nowhere Evil-Knievel practically took over the project while Lannister was supposedly still in charge, at best they were close acquaintances, at worst they were the one and same individual

Evil-Knievel deleted all his posts from a thread from before the ICO in which people were asking whether he was the same guy as Lannister

Lannister runs away with the ICO funds (which in the meantime had become "donations"), Evil-Knievel becomes officially in charge

Earlier this year in his signature he was asking for bitcoin donations because supposedly his old car was about to die on him (something along those lines, he was pretending to be practically poor), turns out last year he said he started accumulating bitcoins in 2012 and has a bunch of them, and that he is heavily invested into XEL

The guy keeps asking for and taking donations for all the work he has supposedly been doing "for free"

If you mention any of that in the other thread or ask any question related to this you get called a troll trying to spread FUD by all the fanboys who are supposedly only here for their love of the project, but who are in fact solely motivated by their year-old investment going to the moon, then your posts get deleted. The whole thing looks like a sect

If you read the old threads from before the ICO many people were already showing concerns about the whole thing looking shady. Is it a coincidence the ICO funds then disappeared into the wild?

The lead dev Evil-Knievel sounds capable I will give him that, but there are a lot of shady things surrounding him. There are too many coincidences. If you read old posts from him from last year you can get a glimpse of his character (wise remarks such as "Fuck you loser" to anyone putting him into question)

I don't know whether they will deliver what they promised, judging from all this there are reasons to doubt it. My bet is Evil-Knievel is the guy who ran away with the ICO funds. By calling ICO funds "donations" he can keep pretending to himself that he didn't steal from anyone and not feel guilty about it. Read the old threads and make up your own mind before investing.

I have no incentive in saying all this other than presenting a story others want to hide. I asked simple questions in the other thread and was attacked and bullied by the XEL sect then my posts were deleted, well they won't delete my posts here.