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Explain how complexity shows god exists, don't just say it does. Where is your argument

With regard to the info in my links, above, explain how God doesn't exist. Don't just say He doesn't. Nobody has rebutted the scientific proof that God exists. But why don't you at least try?

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I have done several times, it's even quoted by you here lol. ''The cause could be many things, claiming it was God it's like claiming it was aliens, no proof for any of them. '' Your links, if everything is true there, which might not be but for the sake of it we will say it is, only proves there is a beginning and a cause for the existence of the universe, it does not say anything about the cause itself. The cause can be many different things and you can only speculate what it is.

You miss the point. The point is that no matter who or what started cause and effect, it is God.

The fact of the "kind of" complexity that cause and effect produces, shows not only that it was absolutely God Who started it, but that God is way beyond the imagination of mankind in the wisdom, knowledge, power, and glory that He has and is.

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Well then we are back to the problem. You said the bible is true, therefore only the god from the bible could be the one who started cause and effect. It can't be anything. It can't be Zeus or aliens. Do you not understand your failed logic here?

You are mixing yourself all up. Focus on the links, and you will prove God to yourself:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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You love loops, don't you? As I said, even if everything there is accurate, the only thing you are proving is that something created the universe. However you don't know what that something is and you are just assuming is the god from the bible because you believe in him.

I looked through your little post here. There isn't even any attempted rebuttal of science. You simply jump into religion.

Come on. Surely you can find a rebuttal to cause and effect, entropy or complexity... or their combined application in science. I mean, since you are so against science, and in favor of religion, that should be an easy thing for you to do, right? Cheesy

What? No rebuttal? Awe, that's too bad. Gonna miss you in Heaven, though. But only for a tiny moment.

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Are you autistic? Cause and effect, entropy and complexity do not prove or show who or what created the universe.

These scientific truths show that it was definitely God that did the creating, even though they don't explain what God really is.

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Where is the evidence pointing to a God and not to something else?

The evidence is right in what you asked. There isn't anything else. So, all the evidence points to God.

Somebody might suggest that big bang is something else. But BB doesn't even scientifically define a method for intelligence in the universe. BB is out of the picture by its own design.

Do you have a "something else" that you can point at, that makes any sense at all?

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Sorry for the long break, I had some work to do and I was gone for a while. In the meantime, I see our little retard went loose and started growing his rotten teeth again. Well, here we are, episode 23 that proves the stupidity of Badecker, an episode named simply 'Apologeezus'.
Badecker has done and said many shit while I was gone, but most of it was the same loop of Badecker where he always goes back to the links after a fail. We've seen a very good question from Astargath regarding how complexity works combined with cause and effect and how does that lead to God and of course he never got an answer, Badecker went around the question and somehow got to religion only to accuse Astargath later of talking religion and to change the subject. We already knew Badecker knows nothing about physics, biology, cosmology, etc so nothing new in the fact he can't really answer how the laws presented in his links 'work'.
However, there is something he hasn't done until now, not in this way: admit he is an apologist. The apologist went full retard again and actually admitted to being an apologist by saying he believes God created the universe because there isn't anything else, to be more specific, because he has no answer to what was the cause of the universe so he just believed in God because he learned about it since he was a baby. That is what an apologist is. What is even funnier is that by admitting that, he denied his whole 'scientific' theory and even his God again, only with the superficiality of the mindset. While believers are tolerated and understood because they need something, they feel they can believe in something great, in something that they call beautiful, apologists are simple idiots who can't admit that they don't know the answer to a question, so they just rule out the question by answering with 'God'. That makes the whole God thing even more superficial and pitiful than it already is nowadays, since that is how religions appeared in the first place, because the lack of knowledge. Now we have the knowledge, but some retards still answer scientific questions with 'God'. One of these retards is right here, and we have 77 more episodes to prove what an idiot he is. Applause for our retarded apologist Badecker for coming out of the closet and stay tuned folks, I ain't going anywhere.