Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on July 06, 2017, 06:55:05 AM

If you think my statements are shameless and arrogant, you are blind of the wolves in
sheep's clothing that exist in your camp who are that.

See what I mean about sociopaths? We have a live one here.
A sociopath will always blame you for their own problems.
Even his arrogance is your fault.

Your brain works so badly it is really quite sad.
I never blamed you or attacked you here.
I only warned you to really worry about those that you think are allies.
That is all. Pretty simple. I guess too simple for some people.

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

Speaking of arrogance, here is another good one from the AgentofCoin Sociopathic Classic.

AgentofCoin's Sociopathic Gem #3 - Make stupid predictions then blame the entire community for not sharing his arrogance.

Here our little sociopath's made many predictions, again, very cocky when he made them:

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1. AgentofCoin: I dare you to have Jihan tweet that he will accept a scaling solution that enforces anti-ASICBoost like measures [#75].

That is a request, not a prediction.

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

2. AgentofCoin: Within the next two months or less, someone will publish a full scientific report either confirming, denying, or concluding that it is indeterminable. (regarding Jihan using or notusing ASICBoost) [#67]

You are correct. No one, to my knowledge, has published a report analyzing any block data.
So my belief and prediction that it would be performed was wrong.

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

3. AgentofCoin: The blocksize increase is not the true issue since Jihan doesnt even really care about that either. [#75]

That is not a prediction, that is a personal opinion and I still stand by that.
Are you saying people do not have a right to different opinions?

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

4. AgentofCoin: Jihan cares more about the potential loss of profits if ASICBoost is restricted from the network. [#75]

That is not a prediction, that is a personal opinion and I still stand by that.
That comment is based on the theory that he was using covert ASICBoost.
Again, are you saying people do not have a right to different interpretation of events?

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

5. AgentofCoin: Miners do not want bigger blocks. It makes more sense that Jihan could block SegWit over an ASICBoost patch more than truely wanting bigger blocks. [#83]

That is not a prediction, that is a personal opinion and I still stand by that.
That comment is based on the theory that he would make more money
from covert ASICBoost, than a simple 2MB blocksize bump.
Again, are you saying people do not have a right to opinions?

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

6. AgentofCoin: You are of a few amount of people who believe the current ASICBoost issue is a fabricated distraction. [#117]

That is not a prediction, that is a personal opinion and I think most people in the
community agree that the Covert and Overt ASICBoost issue is real. Its
existence and possibility is a threat to the Mining Nash Equilibrium.

And again, are you saying people do not have a right to opinions?

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

Here is what ended up happening:

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1. Nope, Jihan pushed for Segwit2X.

2. Nope, didn't happen.

3. Nope, Jihan published his plan for 16MB blocks in 2019.

4. Nope, Jihan Wu: Bitmain May Likely Accept AsicBoost Kill Code

5. Nope, 80%+ hashing power supported Bitcoin Scaling Agreement at Consensus 2017

6. Nope, most people just didn't care, and was quickly distracted by the next distraction: Antbleed.

So 0 out of 6.

1. Purportedly Barry Silbert pushed for it, but Jihan did participate in the agreement.
So if SegWit is activated and prevents covert ASICBoost from being performed in the future,
then you are correct. Until that point, it is still unknown.
[YET TO BE DETERMINED]

2. Yes, I admit (that I am currently aware of) there has been no published report on the
data of blocks to determine if Covert ASICBoost was being performed on the network.
See, I can admit when I was wrong in situations where I was indeed incorrect. Otherwise,
most of your statements that I am lying or blaming others is mostly incorrect. In those
circumstances, you are using improper terminology and phraseology in order to attribute
things that did not actually occur. Personal opinions and beliefs can not be lies.
[MY PREDICTION WAS WRONG]

3. First, he only published that 19 days or so ago, and our conversation was based upon
the data that existed at the time, over 2 months ago. Second, because he posted his
"scaling roadmap" does not guarantee he will follow it. If he does follow it in the future,
then good on him. But otherwise, it has yet to be determined. So, you can not use that
as evidence that he WILL DO IT, because it could be deception or just changed later
because something better could arise. Only when he does it am I proven incorrect.
Only then my original belief then becomes wrong. Then I will admit being wrong.
[YET TO BE DETERMINED]

4. Yes, I was aware of that and commented on that in our thread, if you look.
The issue here is that if he did enact it, then I was wrong. Currently, there has been no
kill code written and placed into any future code proposals (that I am aware of). So the
issue here is that you take people at their word, and I do not. There is a saying, "Put
your money where your mouth is", meaning if you say you will do it, then do it and prove
it. That is all I am saying. If Jihan is willing to brake the ASICBoost potential in his chips,
then I am very delighted he said that, but will be extremely thrilled and happy when he
actually does it. When he actually does it, I will admit to being wrong.
[YET TO BE DETERMINED]

5. Again, your evidence is recent and my belief was based upon data that existed at the
time. You do not understand what time is it seems. You seem to live in a world where people
do not have the ability to change their minds or opinions about things after more data is
available. Many of your complaints against me is because you require a strict adherence to
opinions. In your world, if I was proven to be incorrect at some point, I should perform
seppuku or the like. This is not how normal people conduct discussions or arguments.

The signing of the NY Barry Silbert Agreement does not prove that all miners what bigger
blocks, it only proves that they currently are fine with 2MB block size now. If that agreement
had all miners agreeing to implementing an Emergent Block Size Mechanism, I would then
agree with you and admit that I was wrong in my opinion. Otherwise, you are using the
same word games to order to portray me as being incorrect. The reality is that your
insistence and trying to attack me is because this whole issue is either tied to a liability
you may have or just due to your own ego. Also, you took my quote out of context in
which it occurred. If you look at the paragraph you selected from, you will see it is in
regards to the old soft cap on the blocksize, not blocksize in general. Of course Jihan
presumably would love to go to 20MB tomorrow, but that doesn't mean the smallest
mining farm/pool would want that as well.
[BIG BLOCKS IS NOT 2MB BLOCKS, SO YET TO BE DETERMINED]

6. That does not mean ASICBoost was a fabricated distraction. Because the average
person is easily distracted and is incapable of understanding larger complex issues, does
not mean the original issue (Covert ASICBoost) was not worthy of discussion.

Antbleed was a serious issue from a security point of view which had the capability of
a serious attack vector on Bitmain chips, whether in their control or the control of
customers who bought and use them in their personal location. Either way, each issue
is serious and in my opinion, ASICBoost is more serious since it's consequences are not
temporary but potentially till the end of the network. Antbleed would have been a one
time attack. ASICBoost is a continuous ongoing PoW attack vector type, IMO.
[PEOPLE DISTRACTED DOES NOT EQUAL FABRICATION]

So once again, your attacks against me are not that great. They are mostly word games
and complaints of my phraseology. Most of the time, my opinions are still correct
since they have not been disproven yet. When Jihan/Bitmain performs the action themselves,
then I have been proven wrong. Jihan or miners claiming he/they are going to do something,
does not guarantee that it will occur. If the world truly worked that way, humans would
not need Court systems. Everything would be rainbows and butterflies. Hey, I get it,
maybe you live in rainbow land with gnomes and candy cane bridges. That must be it then.

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

Here is the good bit, after his own bs blew up in his face, he made this statement:

Quote from: AgentofCoin on May 03, 2017, 03:56:29 AM

that no longer matters now since the community has dropped the ball here and has taken no action

So now it's EVERYONE's fault.
Everyone was explaining to him where he got it wrong, but he kept doubling down like a cocky little shithead going through puberty.
And now it is EVERYONE's fault for not sharing his arrogance.

In Bitcoin, it is everyone's fault. If we do or do not take an action, it only is because
WE did or did not do it. That is what Satoshi devised. That is what Consensus is.
So, you obviously do not understand Consensus or what I am talking about.

Unfortunately for you, it seems every-single-word-needs-to-be-spelled-out-for-you-since
-you-can-not-put-different-ideas-together-to-understand-issues-unless-someone-specifically-
points-the-direction-for-you-and-then-hand-holds-the-baby-so-it-doesn't-get-confused-and-
start-having-a-temper-tantrum. Also-every-little-tittle-better-be-correct-since-if-you-are-not-
specific-in-all-ways-baby-gets-confused-and-needs-to-lash-out. Go-drink-your-bottle-baby.

The real truth is that you are a pretty base simpleton. Your arguments against me are
not very good. I am always willing to be proven incorrect, because then there is actual
enjoyment and advancement in the discussion and life, but with you it is opposite.

The only thing I was incorrect about was that no one published a report on the past block
data within the time frame I assumed. I admit I got that wrong, but all else you claim is
garbage. Otherwise you argument is not very interesting and extremely emotional.

Quote from: Troll Buster on July 06, 2017, 11:49:23 AM

You get even more LOL factor once you realize he also posted this:

Quote from: AgentofCoin on April 09, 2017, 05:38:29 AM

The fact is you are the noob who copies and pastes from other forums and websites and literally checks off talking points as you go.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on April 16, 2017, 04:09:12 AM

Your whole issue is not with facts, but with me directly, not only because you
have ego issues but because you also sees me as a threat, either because what I am
saying is closer to the truth then most people are currently aware of, or because
you really are worried I am a prophet and is slightly filled with self doubt. Lol.

LOL indeed.
Let's give our little resident sociopath AgentofCoin another round of applause.

And yes, there is more!

Oh, you weren't threatened but teaching a lesson then?
Here is the lesson, stop wasting your time, because your class room is empty and
your curriculum is crap. It is interesting that you have numbered the links to my
past writing above, as if you have been working on this for a long time. ZZZzzz...

**AgentofCoin bows to the non-existent audience**