Quote from: dz4505 on July 09, 2017, 02:26:02 PM

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I have accepted the fact that I lose the $4500 I put into this project.

Oh well... live and learn. Expensive lesson, but glad I only did a small amount of Eth.

Time to go to these guys' houses and deal some baseball bat justice Cool

I'm sorry this is affecting your investment. I don't know you, but I've been in your shoes. I myself lost 6500 to 7000, but I think everybody must know where they are stepping in. The dishonesty and greed of this ico is absurd.

For those all too worried about the fucking prices, just wait this hit bittrex, them you will be able to dump the tokens you bought there, including the ones you are doubling down in liqui because of the "fud".

Greetings!

What are you talking about? What are the 6500-7000 $?

Everyone can see what you are complaining about, this is the other side of the public reprimand. Everyone can see that you have about 50,000 tokens, and you complain that you are not credited with about 5000 tokens. That is, in fact, even if you take into account the fall in the price from ICO, then your possible losses are = (ICOprice - RightNowPrice) * 5000 = $ 30.

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Couple of problems with your calculation:
1. First off there is no way he could have lost $30 only. You probably meant: (ICOprice - RightNowPrice) * 5000 = $300
ICOPrice per token was around ~12 cent not including any bonus. Price right now is ~5 cent (yes 5 cent haha.)
So basically (.12 - .5)*5000 = $350, but this is assuming he received his 5000 tokens, which is being disputed (you work that out with him, I am not getting involved)

2. Since he's disputing that he never received the correct tokens amount, you are calculating it wrong from the get go. Take the ICOprice * 5000, since he didn't have any of the 5000 for the RightNowPrice to matter.

Similarly, when you are buy Amazon stock from a fake brokerage and never receive any of the stock that you were promised, your loss is 100% because you never received them.

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Everyone can see what you are complaining about, this is the other side of the public reprimand.

He sent 4 emails. 4 emails. Instead of complaining about him complaining in a public forum, how about responding to any of his 4 emails and maybe, just maybe then you guys could work it out in a private manner.

Thanks dz4505 for defending logic and common sense.

This is getting worse than I thought, some basic math is a challenge for him. Let's calculate everything in BTC to make it easier. The actual ICO price for me was 5230 satoshi per token: BTC I put divided by how many tokens they gave me = 2.63136938/50,312.6154910489=5230 satoshi. So 5000 tokens are 0.00005230*5000=0.2615 BTC. This is what they took from me.

I can ditch it for 1800 satoshi per token (2000 is only bots pumping in liqui, this changes over time), so if we add to this calculation the loss in terms of BTC due to this whole mess in this ICO and public perception, my losses are (0.00005230-0.00001800)*50,312.6154910489 + 0.2615 = 1,72572271 + 0.2615 = 1,98722271. This is around 5,000.00 usd.

Only those 0.2615 BTC alone would be around 600 usd both right now and by ICO time.

But what me and that guy I quoted actually meant to say was that we lost 100% in this because we also lost other opportunities to support this project instead. It is the opportunity cost, but don't even think about trying to explain this to people who can't do some fucking kindergarten math.

Why they don't simply refund instead of exposing themselves more and more is beyond me.