Quote from: Cuber Krypton on July 10, 2017, 07:45:42 AM

Quote from: deisik on July 10, 2017, 07:26:54 AM

Quote from: Cuber Krypton on July 10, 2017, 03:36:40 AM

I want a real chance for users to vote.

This means a chain split and we will vote with our money. The Full Node propaganda is crap and even if it had any technical support, any sane user, and by user I mean Exchanges who control the money flow, will just run 2 nodes. The only way for ALL users to have a say, is for both Chains to be listed and let users dump whichever they don't like.

So yes. I want a chain split so I can have a say in this

You forget about gory details and nasty repercussions

The most serious one which exchanges never fail to stress seems to be related to the so-called replay attack which is possible when a chain split happens (just like it happened with the Ethereum split). This attack comes down to spending coins on one chain, and the respective transaction inadvertently (or not so inadvertently) propagating to another chain, so coins end up having been spent on the two chains. I read that Coinbase lost some monies due to this kind of attack. It might well have been a deliberate attempt by someone rebroadcasting every transaction from one chain to the other. Without doubt, there should be a host of other issues too

This is why I have been abundantly clear everywhere that I perfectly support Hard Forks in these cases. I think this soft fork represents much more danger. Because until users get to vote safely (no replay, reorg), you are stuck in a limbo game of chicken while everyone else is watching from the sidelines wondering what will happen with our money

And what does it change in the end?

Cloning an existing blockchain with all its transactions as well as balances and making this new blockchain somewhat incompatible with the original one is the way to go when some group doesn't agree to proposed changes. Would that count as a hard fork? And does soft fork pose these dangers if there is no second blockchain and thus no potential for such issues arising? That's the reason why major exchanges require any hard fork resulting in what is essentially an altcoin to implement means to avoid the replay attack before they are going to list this fork (altcoin)