Quote from: Socket54 on May 02, 2013, 05:15:18 PM

I enjoy reading this thread but last 5 or so pages have been a buncha jargon that needs to be sumed up in a nice and tiddy post

Investor #1 wants a good company, complete with a brick and mortar establishment and marketing built for a growing company. Something that will stand out more with better transparency. #1 is probably thinking to himself does anyone even know what these guys real names are, what they look like anything?

Investors #2, 3 enjoy the the lemonade stand style structure currently implemented and stand by good ol buddy systems of honesty and good neighborly business practices. Problem is where is the lemonade stand? In a basically anonymous series of internet forums...

Now while the lemonade stand may have been good for a few funny monies here and there, i see this company as way overdue for a upgrade.

just my 2 satoshi's

I think the problem here is patience. Everyone in the Bitcoin world is used to things moving at lightning speed. After all the rise from 15 to 266 took less than 90 days, and the crash took only hours. AM's first 3TH deployment happened ridiculously fast. The latest rise from 8.0TH/s to 13TH/s happened ridiculously fast.

But the real world doesn't work that way. The reason there was such a delay at 6.5/7 TH/s is because the real world moves slowly- on the order of weeks, months, and years. 100 years ago, the world moved even slower- DECADES, not months.

Expecting to go from lemonade stand to Microsoft in weeks is just not reasonable. The complaints raised are absolutely valid, the timelines they are expected under are not- a proper corporate structure takes months to years. These are all things that Friedcat is aware of as well.

My opinion is this- I don't mean to come down so hard on furuknap because he simply represents a larger problem, a problem that consumes the vast majority of companies. This problem is shareholders wanting info, results, and profits, and wanting them *NOW*. This leads to executives who curtow to shareholder whims, delivering quarterly results at the expense of long term planning.

Realistically speaking, AM is more open and communicative to shareholders than virtually any other company. Weekly updates? Details on internal workings and long term plans, often months ahead of time(200TH/s announcement, 50TH/s dates, blade sales info, USB miner info, etc)? And yet you want more? Moreover, because all shareholders have access to this information, *all* competitors have access to this information as well. And you want *more* information?

The biggest and best companies out there all have made a habit- Ignoring shareholder short term wants. Amazon, Apple, Google... Do you think they give a crap about shareholder quarterly demands? Nope. They care about the customers' wants, and the long term planning of the company. Shareholders buy the company *because* they have do a good job, not because the CEO's convinced the shareholders he was going to do good.

So all that said, we should come up with a list of our requests for Friedcat in a single place. That way it is easy for him to read, easy for us to track, and easy for him to respond.

I have started a spreadsheet with three requests here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiOjtcD8SdisdEJ6MXcwZHdnZVV1YjhvQ1dNTnVwMUE&usp=sharing

Please keep reasonable timelines(months or years for large projects), and ensure that the request you are making is actually important- Friedcat's time as well as AM's time is on a premium right now due to the deployment and sales.