Quote from: Horacewoodwood on July 13, 2017, 06:57:28 AM

Quote from: qwik2learn on July 12, 2017, 06:27:03 PM

Quote from: Horacewoodwood

You keep mentioning the CIA and this makes it even more of a joke.

What is so unscientific about these trials? Empirical evidence was posted, you posted only your beliefs. You have no real reason to object to a finding by the CIA, and no plausible objection to the psychic experiments on camera.
Read more:
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/skeptical_misdirection#skeptical_misdirection_denying_evidence

Quote from: Horacewoodwood

Yes, the CIA have once believed in telekinesis,

You think they no longer believe in it? Then why the report confirming it?
Sources:
On-Camera test: http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/
Test by the United States CIA: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/66xy95/zhang_baosheng_confirmed_cia_psychic_ability_to/

An institution who believed killing goats by staring at them is possible is not quite a proper candidate for scientific research over telekinesis. There is no real report confirming anything, you can contact the CIA and show them the links, see the answer. However, considering you posted a link found in the conspiracy section from reddit, you should see how this becomes highly pathetic. As for the 'unscientific' part, you are either retarded or lack the knowledge to properly read something due to your 'cherrypicking' technique: telekinesis is not about psychology. It would include physics, neuroscience, chemistry, biology. These fields are not researched for telekinesis, so that research that you are talking about are mildly serious and do not confirm absolutely nothing.

It is not upon me to confirm that this report is no longer valid since it appears valid on its face, a government report summarizing the trials of the CIA scientists. Why exactly is this report invalid or unscientific? It is pathetic of you to attack the messengers: CIA scientists, Reddit users, and me, for bringing these two proofs to your attention.
I did also submit a report that incorporated neuroscience into its methods, but you missed that entirely!
Could you kindly explain once again exactly how or why these studies are unscientific? You said there were holes in the science, meaning there are methodological issues. I disagree, these are rigorous tests, I have not heard an atheist explain why this evidence is so unreliable, it comes from elite researchers, that should be enough to warrant a closer investigation.