Quote from: Astargath on July 12, 2017, 09:45:41 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 12, 2017, 08:33:30 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 12, 2017, 02:33:30 PM

You are defending a lost cause. God gave them orders on how to enslave people. That's not a moral god. God also commanded to kill someone because he was working on the Sabbath, that's not a moral and logical god, that's a barbaric god and just shows the mentality of the people who wrote the book.

You simply have your religion. Since you are unwilling to look at what the Bible says in its entirety, you have made a different kind of religion for yourself.

You will come to find out how majestic God is. I hope it is before your death, in ways that cause you to turn and accept Him. Because it won't be fun for you if you find out after your death.

Cool

The bible has literally pages of god commanding to kill people, what do you mean to look at its entirety? If it's truly the book of a god, you would expect it to have no mistakes. Or that people won't be able to misinterpret it.
You see, all that matters to god is for me to accept that he exists, he doesn't care whether I am a good person or not, it just shows how stupid he is lol

Old Testament and ancient Israelites that is. New Testament is the book, that christianity is actually based upon closely. Your hatred is completely misplaced here, Mr. "lol".

Quote from: Astargath on July 13, 2017, 01:57:21 PM

The biggest problem with the god from the bible is that you need to believe in him to go to heaven. It seems to me that believing in him is all that matters. Im using my brain, logic and the tools god supposedly gave me to find the truth and after studying the bible my conclusions are that he does not exist. Now because of that I'm going to hell. So I'm going to hell because I used the logic god gave me? You realize how that does not make any sense. I can't force myself to believe in him. Why am i going to hell for that. I'm trying to be a good person but it's meaningless if you dont believe in god. You see how it doesn't make any sense.

No, not at all. Salvation is offered to those, who follow teaching of Jesus Christ to the best of their abilities, to those, who atone their personal mistakes aswell as those, who lived good life, but were never for whatever reason offered place among true believers.

Now, if you know the teaching and willingly refused it (but you never actually read the bible, did you?) aswell as the justice of Lord then thats different matter.

So the idea of salvation, unlike say communism or other warped secular ideologies is based completely around equality and FREE WILL of the person in question.

How can bitcointalk member have problem with that?