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Where can I see current signalling stats for the various SegWit BIPs?

This has some info:

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ver9-2k.png

CSV is check sequence verify, but that is already locked in, so doesn't appear.

BIP 91 is segwit2x (same bit anyway)

SegWit is raw segwit, it would need 95% to lock in.

If BIP-91 hits 80%, then SegWit signalling becomes mandatory, so it will go to 100% automatically, and then lock-in segwit mid-August.

But it's all the same segwit anyway. Even if segwit gets activated with BIP91, it's the same code and it's compatible with all clients, so we don't need to run the segwit2x crap to enjoy segwit.

After segwit is locked in a lot of miners will not support the hardfork. You are delusional if you think 80% of hashrate wants to hardfork in 5 months.

If segwit is going to get activated and segwit2x is being finalized by most of the big Chinese miners, will hardfork still take place???
We are all scared about this hardfork thing itself, but few of the news sites are saying that it is hardly possible we will be seeing any kinda fork as the probability has become unlikely to see such things happen...
What will actually happen if segwit, which is currently resolving the scaling issues, gets activated through BIP91 or SegWit2x???
Can anyone put up some light over this???

I think the current thought most people have are that by ourselves BIP141 cant get activated because of Chinese miners, but with BIP91 Segwit2x you can get the support from people who want Segwit + Miners working together and once it is activated, scrap the future plan of Hardfork months later. I think this is the consensus most people are coming too and when the time comes around for the hardfork, there will be much less support for it, and it will be blocked.

That is a good insight, I also agree.