Quote from: rpietila on July 28, 2017, 08:30:49 AM

For further clarity:

There is no evidence that I ever took a penny out of the game.

What I put into game, was 3 years of work, and paid many EUR-denominated stuff of the game from my pocket, plus gave out 20,000 XMR without strings, plus 20,000 XMR sold to get Markka (which was blocked=stolen from me by Chrichton and other scum, excuse me, high-ranking players who just don't think my loss as theirs, especially when they pocket it), about 10,000 XMR still blocked=stolen in the game where my access has been taken away, 3.45 million EUR as settlements to people who did not participate in the thefts (obvious is that people who see me bringing them money, and do not help when it's taken away, OR worse yet pocket it, will never get anything, and this applies to many people here - thief Crichton has sinned, and possesses my money, and it will never bring anything but curse to him until he repent and give money back to ME (and then to others since I have no interest in money, being master of it).

So one of us is lying scammer, and all readers may freely pick their side, identifying with either him, or me. I would be so glad that some who actually lost would give Trust feedback to the ones whom it belongs. If you stick head deep into ass like OZ, Karma has a difficulty to give your reward. You must speak up. Enough of this darkness already.

If you think I am just talking, you may be wrong. I mentioned something about abrupt ending for those who live in countries where Police does not uphold justice, and that includes you.

I have tried to speak up, and have strongly suggested both sides seek a compromise, so all of us can continue the Game, but is anyone listening, or do people actually think they can WIN this debate? I think I clearly see what happened, I really do, my eyes are OPEN!!

Most of what you say above is correct, you've lost a large sum of money with CK, and have never withdrawn anything from CK, so you have not profited from any 'scam', and find it offensive that people are both criticising you, and have locked your accounts.

BUT, that doesn't mean the sequence of events described by generalizethis, smooth and others isn't true also - your version and theirs aren't mutually exclusive, they both accurately describe certain facts about the history of CK.

You've lost so much already in CK it's difficult to imagine it's fair and reasonable that you should lose more money paying these debts, especially to those who've already made a HUGE profit. I understand your position Risto.

But, these debts were incurred 'legally' under the rules of the Game, so if you don't pay them, people will call you a scammer, and the Game suffers greatly, including innocent bystanders like myself.

Both arguments are valid, and people can maintain their positions until everything related to CK goes down the drain, but we all lose everything that's left in that scenario, that's why I'm asking both sides to try and find a compromise, so risto gets his accounts back, BUT, he acknowledges these debts as valid, and works out a payment plan based on the marketcap of the Game, so he doesn't lose any more money .

Work it out guys, please!!