Quote from: EuroTrash on May 06, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

So here's how I read the current sentiment around this forum: most people who watched 2011 happen here are now expecting a dump. Most newbies aren't.

Not necessarily a dump, but possibly a long, slow slide.

Quote from: EuroTrash on May 06, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

2011 bitcoiners are mostly middle-class geeks not pro investors. Their fun-money has suddenly become something you can buy real estate with. At that level there is little point for them in buying more coins with their monthly spare cash - it's like adding a few dimes to a million.

This is essentially correct.

Quote from: EuroTrash on May 06, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

Most of them were true believers at the beginning, yet now I'm not sure most of them still are - to the point they'd actually spend their coins.

Eh, I still believe in Bitcoin in the long term, but I think it's over-hyped now.

Quote from: EuroTrash on May 06, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

Their stash's potential worth keeps oscillating between "decent car" and "financial empire", depending on the news of the day.
So much at stake doesn't make you sleep at night. Turns you into a zombie checking tickers and watching walls.

A bit of an exaggeration on how much it oscillates, but yes, it was stressful enough to make me sell all of my coins recently.

Quote from: EuroTrash on May 06, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

Newbies - they are coming late to the party and are likely in for the get-rich-quick hype. They don't have the 2011 bias. It's like fathers vs kids. Fathers have cognitive bias so they are uneasy to adapt to new conditions. Kids have inexperience bias so they are likely going to make the same mistakes again.

Yep, I think the price will be a lot lower in 6 months.

Quote from: EuroTrash on May 06, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

And then there are speculators. Pro speculators. Likely silent lurkers here. Maybe we are all being played by a few pro's of them who just need to get all the coins for their own play, and are ok with burning some serious amount of fiat in the process. I don't know.

It's possible, who knows.

Quote from: EuroTrash on May 06, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

I think BTC price is like Schroedinger's cat. The simple act of us observing walls and talking about them makes it so that they move in the opposite direction of where the most of us expect them to. And yes I think the dump will happen. But only when almost nobody is expecting it anymore. Which makes it hard for us to get profit on the way up.

The dump already happened. The next step to match 2011 is a long, slow slide (with some bouncing up and down) for the next 6 months.