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### CWI-MINING - CWIGM

hi all ...

an update on our main page here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563601.msg20503842#msg20503842 ...

for those that are skeptical about the current state of miners and mining ( and rightly so ) - one massive piece of advice from us veterans in the industry ... DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE - and research well ...

those of us who have been 'around the traps' and have respect for the communities and ourselves - can always be counted on ... those that are there for nothing more than the 'profit' and self-gain ( especially those who evangelize themselves as 'good devs' - let alone 'good people' ) are the ones to watch out for ... their peers will tell more about them than they will ...

we have started our project because WE TOO were fed up with the garbage that was out there - and the so called 'good devs' that have been ripping the communities off for SO LONG ...

so do your research -due diligence - and make your decisions based on that and that alone ...

respect goes a long way ... and those that show none - get none ... especially those that show no respect to the the communities that FEED them - let alone support them ...

#crysx

so, with your miner, if optimized as fast as private miners everyone will be on a level playing field as long as they use your miner/pools without any initial miner fees? not sure how i feel about this... made a good bit of profit with spmod before everyone started giving it away. either way it should be fun to witness 'THE GREAT DEV BATTLE OF 2017'

well put ...

but it is this selfish attitude that has made sp rich ...

first - 'stealing' ( thats his word - not mine ) other peoples code and privatizing it ( read - breaking the GPL license ) and RESELLING it WITHOUT sourcecode - when he should be providing the source code with it ... its NOT sp thats doing the work - its the other devs ... sp tweaks and messes with the code to make it that little bit faster - still a talent nonetheless and he is talented in doing that ... yet he STILL sells OTHER DEVELOPERS code as 'his' private miner ... breaking every license in the book ... yet he still manages to convince people like yourself the he is doing all the work - hehehe ... not only do you pay for the miner - he has already stated that others are 'stealing' his code - so a fee is already slated and implemented - then you also have to pay for the pool fee for the pool you mine on ... how much do you think you actually get for that small increase in hashrate? ...

second - CWIgm miner is NOT 'as fast as ' other miners insofar as hashrate is concerned ... we have a brought it out for Closed Beta purely for the stability basis ... our own PRIVATE miner is much faster than this ( Class A Optimization ) - and has a higher hashrate that spmod also ... all of spmod ... we will not release this one - as the code is still public ... and unlike that so called 'honest' dev sp - if we release it - we WILL provide the source for it ... guess what sp does in return for this wonderful thing that we have worked so hard for? ... yup - copy it - mess withsome of the code - PRIVATIZE it by breaking the GPL license - and resell it as his 'own' spmod#whatevernumber ... no tanx ...

we test purely for the stability of the miner - so we can eventually include it in our private miner and pool system - that WILL be for the community ... how - is of no concern of anyones - yet ...

the issue with being in front by a couple of hashes is simply greed ... 0.05btc for the spmod miner - THEN a 2.5% 'dev' fee when you mine - THEN a pool fee between 1-2% on average ... how money you think you have burned - and you call it a 'profit' ? ... if you stay out in front - great - if not - there are developers who are NOT greedy and have 400GPU in there local farm and more than 1000GPU in remote farm like sp has ... if that mentality is what yopu have to stay 'in front' of the market - then please - go waste your money on sp ... because from now on - all the help we ( i personally especially ) gave him when he first started out - will be the one thing that will work against him ... and any other dev that tries to screw the communities for the type of money he is making off YOUR back ...

if that doesnt concern you - it should ...

but as it stand - no one seems to care - except us ...

im not attacking you in any way - as you do bring up a very good solid point ... but you see - there is more to life that ripping the miners off ( especially the smaller ones that cannot afford these high fees and costs ) - there is MINING and CRYPTO and the FUN of it ... not the deliberate acts of screwing communities for money to line their own pockets ...

we here at ChainWorks Industries (CWI) do much more than mine ... which setup us apart from almost all the others ... AND we open our doors and infrastructure to those that actually commit to the communities and crytpo in general - bringing much more than higher hashrates to convince people to part with their hard earned ( and mined ) money ...

sp will be sp - as he should be ... he will do what he does ... same with wolf0 ( a great dev in his own right ) - as with palgin - and djm34 and tpruvot etc ... we will do what we need to do to grow and help the crypto community become MUCH better - and conversely the crypto community help us CWI become MUCH better also ...

battle of the devs? ... hardly ... we dont want to battle him - or any other ... we would rather work together with them - but only those that have the decency to make crypto better ... not just for this coin - or another - but in general ...

more needs to be done on this algo - and hopefully tribus next ( or another - will see ) ...

#crysx

I must protect those guys, especially wolf, djm and tpruvot cause those guys gave a lot to the community as well.
Just a simple thing, they have knowledge , and that is not something they got overnight. Learning learning learning, years and years.
Yes, maybe sometimes they just take an open source code and REWORK IT, but that is like tuning a car. Using their time and knowledge.

They sell their knowledge, like lawyers do for example. Nobody is forced to buy their reworked software.

thats what im saying tho ...

its THOSE devs ( and a few others - like klaust cbuchner tnelson genoil alexis78 - to name a few more ) that have worked their bums off to make the communities what they are in the development field - only to have a dev come in and copy their work - mess with the code - make it private - and sell it ot make himself rich ...

we dont work that way - and its no wonder that the decent devs of crypto are now going into a more 'private' mode themselves ... as we are ...

#crysx