Quote from: Mendeleev on July 31, 2017, 12:07:43 PM

Quote from: B!gSmoke on July 31, 2017, 09:03:08 AM

As ICONOMI first published their whitepaper they said they will pay dividends in form of ETH to their ICN hodlers, but at a certain point they realized that this will make ICNs a security so they switched to buyback method and Jani said that they will give ICN a utility on their DAMP platform (final product).

This means ICN isn't a security anymore it's a utility token now.

It's not up to us, or Iconomi, whether it's a security or not. Your reasoning is incorrect. ICN is still arguably a security.

The fact profits are being used to buy back the token doesn't prevent it from being classed as a security. It's still a method of profit distribution, and ICN holders are still expecting the value of their investment to increase.

It is better to stick with the "we don't really know yet" position, than to claim it definitely is or isn't a security at this stage.

As Bigsmoke is active with his moon talk and conjecture, close to an important date, you can probably expect most of his ICN to be sitting on Kraken right now, waiting to dump on your heads Grin

For what I´ve heard Iconomi spent shitloads of money on US lawyers to clearify things. That and that fact that still none of the exchanges have reacted with delisting (which may all have good lawyers themselves) makes me believe that the SEC stuff is a non-issue, especially for tokens that were issued and sold prior the SEC report.

If it´s an issue in future anyway, there will be SEC compliant exchanges like https://bravenewcoin.com/news/overstock-announces-cryptosecurity-exchange-and-worlds-first-crypto-bond/

In my opinion it would be very positive and likely that US people could finally participate