Quote from: lurker101 on August 01, 2017, 08:38:15 AM

Long time lurker but decided to make an account because a lot of you are accusing someone without providing any evidence at all. I'm guessing you were one of the idiot that bought high like a fool and end up losing money when it came down and now you are accusing Max a scammer? How can Max be a pump and dumper when he has most of his chaincoins. The only things Max is at fault is he talk without thinking sometime and end up causing confusion. He maybe a terrible advisor and but hes not a scammer. I follow Max main channel when he had 20k subscribers, now he has 350k subscribers, I can honestly say, the dude has always been real and upfront, no bs. He practically show where he live in sf, you think a scammer would do that?

ps. As for as Linda, one of the viewer bought it up to him, he even said not to buy it, unless you want to buy it when it was dirt cheap, just incase it might go to the moon or w/e. You gotta remember, hes just a regular dude, trying to invest in a coin that might blow up.

Look and you'll see "scammer" is not part of my vocabulary. Neither is the name of the hatted DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality. My evidence is the YouTube vids he has put out. Have you watched them all? Neither have I. Are you saying i need to go back, find where he says and does these things, and post the hour/minute mark on the vid where he says and does them?

For example, when asked what his CHC holdings were, or to at least prove/show his holdings, he called that "private" and doesn't want to risk getting hacked. So there's no way to really indicate one's CHC holdings without risking a hack attack? It doesn't compute. So no, there is no transparency, and so, you have no evidence to support your assertion he is up front. If he has since shown evidence of his holdings let us know, but at this point we need to see his time-stamped order book from July 3, two days prior to publicity, up past $6, and back down to $.50. If he held enough CHC to start 29 masternodes, all is well. Instead, things he has said suggest he sold off some 1/3 somewhere along the way. That's not "a little bit" that he advises. Now, at one point you had to show him your holdings to get into his #slack. But he does not hold himself to this standard to get into the confidence of a what, 350k subscriber base?

The mere fact that his channel would blow up from 20k to 350k makes it an opportune environment, through live chat, to run a serial pump and dump operation in the name of pump-and-hold. He admits to the pump part, and SAYS he holds. He said he held 29k CHC. The pump started at $.06. Around the peak he continued to make that claim. Later he indicated he had 20k CHC, having lost some "in the fight". It does not compute. How do you lose 1/3 your position when you put more capital on buy-walls on the way down? Just the opposite, you should be gaining coins. So if he's dumping even 1/3 his holdings into the FOMO he generates, that qualifies as fraud.

I'm just holding him, and you who defend him, to his own standards, and calling out the non-computing aspects of his narrative. The DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality called out another YouTube personality, Trevon James, for selling out. Said he would spit in his face. Turns out Trevon was a bag-holder going all the way back to April 29, buying one day after the peak of a huge two week, 50x run-up. So he was holding these bags, probably around $.08, two months prior to the DruggedOnCoins pump. Trevon then made bank at $6+ without any reference to what was going on in the DruggedOnCoins world. No connection. No club. No club membership. But he get's called out. The point is, the DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality was very much pressing his live viewership to hold at any and all prices, high, or low, or else be ridiculed as a panicking "noob".

Yes, PRESSING. For example, after the DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality pulled the buy wall at $.90, when Random Tandems group was hoddling together, live, all through the night when the price was dropping to $.50, the DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality entered the chat demanding a wrench. He wanted the wrench so he could start banning. There were two or three there casting aspersions on the whole operation. He couldn't get the wrench because Tandems was asleep in the UK and not answering phone. Notably though, it took quite a while for the group to actually believe it was the DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality, as his manner of speaking was incoherent, as if he was either a troll or, ...was he drunk/drugged? Eventually he proved his credentials to the group leads, put up $100 of super chat to get a wrench, and soon lost patience when they could not wake up Tandems, the only one who could give a wrench. The whole episode, very demanding, arrive, demand, lose patience, go. All to be able to ban nay-sayers.

So my point is this. Given this full court press, there is no excuse for dumping even 1/3 holdings into the FOMO, or even into the fear of holding bags. I don't expect him to show anything that would identify anything that could make him a target of attack. But there must be some way he can verify his holdings, when he accumulated them, and how much he held through this "experiment" (his word for it). Nothing else computes.

Speaking of experiments, this is perhaps the first time a pump team has appropriated the concept of holding acquisitions no matter what, until some price that can really only be reached in some months or years, if ever. $100? Really? Hold until price is the same as the current DASH price? Even this was a moving goal post. The first target was $5. The second $100. At one point he was mentioning $1000. There is a very good chance he dumped at the first mentioned target of $5 or $6. Whatever the target was supposed to be, it was always significantly higher. Yes, this method of PUMP was probably not used before. When accused of pump and dump, the DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality got emotional, and claimed that if it was a pump and dump it would be on and over within 5 minutes. Number one, this does not compute. Plenty of pumps last hours, even days. The DruggedOnCoins YouTube personality would like us to believe that if a pump is sustained for days or weeks at a time, it can't qualify as a dump. I disagree. By experimenting with a buy-and-hold message, it could be possible to sustain a pump longer than it would normally last. Again, nothing wrong with pump and hold unless:

A) you sell more than 5% of your pre-pump initial holdings into the intentionally generated FOMO.

By intentionally generating FOMO through things like $100 target HYPE, it can easily be expected that many will be persuaded to commit much more than 5% on such a bet. The fact that you think i put in way too much capital at way too high a price pretty much proves that such things CAN BE EXPECTED. The fact is, he HYPED HARD AT ALL PRICE LEVELS, during this particular experiment where the pump team cloaked itself as the CHC "community", when in fact they just arrived on July 5.

Scam is not in my vocabulary. But we could talk about fraud.