Quote from: dzimbeck on August 02, 2017, 02:22:01 AM

Quote from: earlz on July 24, 2017, 05:08:14 AM

This was addressed in February. Some people (primarily accounts created or which have suddenly become active in the past month or two here and on reddit) continue to bring this issue up. Read the Smith and Crown article if you want a fairly unbiased account of where it stands. Nothing has changed because it's he-said vs he-said. There is no consensus to come to regarding a "solution", or anything to "clear up". We've made our statement and he disagrees with it; there's nothing else to be done. Furthermore, all of the things that Smith and Crown have said would rectify this concern in their eyes have already been accomplished, such as financial transparency and our code being released with all of the things implemented we said we would. Additionally, Qtum has 3 co-founders, it's not just one person running the entire project. We manage ourselves in a way that it's impossible, even if 1 of us became corrupt, to just up and run away with the crowdfunded money. This is common sense in any blockchain project like this. It's not 2014 anymore, where everyone naively shares a single-sig wallet. And finally, that article that "hangs over our head" is alone.. Well, I guess there's also that funny guy on youtube that said all the code me and my team had worked on (and that ~8 teams built hackathon projects on in the past 24 hours) actually doesn't exist. I literally LOL'd when I watched that just at the pure irony and timing of it.

Earlz it's not "he said she said"... Steven faked volume, bought 1/2 of BitBay, got a refund, got 150+ BTC and WALKED AWAY. Then he dumps his BitBay coins, crushing the market while I was coding. This guy has no soul. And the fact that you work for him knowing that is absolutely a joke. Ibai who used to work with Qtum(who was fired because they found out he is a friend of mine) will most likely tell any of you that Qtum did the same volume fakery.

Also no accounts were created to fud you... actually the opposite, you guys had tons of new accounts pop on to defend you. The people who comment, most of them were investors and I can personally verify most of them are valid investors. If you really want, I can ask the entire BitBay community to chime in here and you will see 100s of comments(obviously that's not necessary). Many of them don't want to spend a moment on you.

Case and point, Dai got money he did no work for. Walked away. In my book thats theft. He lied and told me he would support it, he didn't... he just kept investors money.

Quote from: BitBay Team on December 12, 2014, 09:50:12 PM

Here are a few more chats for you guys to look over...

I'll release more and more over the coming days and weeks and I'll save the best for last!!

[2014-11-15 7:38:30 AM] Steven Dai: yes
[2014-11-15 7:39:18 AM] Steven Dai: 20 minutes left
[2014-11-15 7:39:26 AM] Gekko: w00t!
[2014-11-15 7:39:37 AM] Steven Dai: i will buy this out
[2014-11-15 7:48:41 AM] linhan.ee: all done 2765.7221 BTC collected.
[2014-11-15 7:48:56 AM] Steven Dai: i buy this out
[2014-11-15 7:49:12 AM] Steven Dai: let me check how many bitcoins i put into this
[2014-11-15 7:49:19 AM] Gekko: ok
[2014-11-15 7:51:14 AM] Steven Dai: put 1283BTC into this and hold 0.442 billion Bitbay
[2014-11-15 7:52:38 AM] Steven Dai: so we buy 1283BTC+500BTC=1783BTC Bay..we get about 2765BTC-1783BTC=982BTC.
[2014-11-15 7:53:24 AM] Gekko: (handshake)
[2014-11-15 7:53:47 AM] Steven Dai: me and lin advance 25BTC to David. so we get 982-25=957BTC for us
[2014-11-15 7:53:55 AM] linhan.ee: well done
[2014-11-15 7:54:04 AM] Gekko: good work guys
[2014-11-15 7:54:30 AM] Gekko: also im aware Bob was forwarded his funds already.
[2014-11-15 7:55:00 AM] Steven Dai: yes
[2014-11-15 7:55:19 AM] Steven Dai: lin send 500BTC to bob after the first ico day
[2014-11-15 7:55:34 AM] linhan.ee: Trading open time has been published?
[2014-11-15 7:55:44 AM] linhan.ee: I will setup a trading time for it
[2014-11-15 7:55:45 AM] Gekko: yes, and you sent him today 170 i beleive.
[2014-11-15 7:56:02 AM] Steven Dai: so everybody get 957/5=191BTC
[2014-11-15 7:56:12 AM] Gekko: beautiful
[2014-11-15 7:56:26 AM] Gekko: and this is only the start
[2014-11-15 7:57:18 AM] Steven Dai: and get 356 BTC values Bitbay.
[2014-11-15 7:57:46 AM] Steven Dai: so everybody will get 191BTC+356 values Bitbay.
[2014-11-15 7:58:22 AM] Steven Dai: Also we should at least Reserve 100BTC+200BTC Bitbay for DEV Funds control by ourselves.
[2014-11-15 7:58:34 AM] Gekko: of course
[2014-11-15 7:59:38 AM] Gekko: now when market opens we will push the price to at least a triple floor.
[2014-11-15 7:59:41 AM] Steven Dai: so finally the number is: 171BTC+316BTC values BitBay and 100BTC+200BTC values DEV funds control by our five
[2014-11-15 7:59:49 AM] Gekko: and it will never come back down. never.
[2014-11-15 7:59:57 AM] Steven Dai: that's great
[2014-11-15 8:00:18 AM] Steven Dai: bob get 170BTC and 500BTC values BitBay.
[2014-11-15 8:33:03 AM] Steven Dai: when will we release the wallet and coin to bter？
[2014-11-15 8:34:13 AM] Gekko: Lin should already have the wallet installed. Just need David to send him the coins
[2014-11-15 8:34:51 AM] Steven Dai: ok nice
[2014-11-15 8:37:10 AM] Gekko: So when Lin is ready, have him post the address to David.
[2014-11-15 8:37:15 AM] Gekko: Then everything is 100%
[2014-11-15 8:38:32 AM] Steven Dai: you mean the Total Bitcoin address?
[2014-11-15 8:38:48 AM] Gekko: I mean, the exchange bitbay address
[2014-11-15 8:38:51 AM] Steven Dai: all done 2765.7221 BTC collected.?
[2014-11-15 8:38:57 AM] Gekko: no...
[2014-11-15 8:39:01 AM] Steven Dai: oh i se
[2014-11-15 8:39:03 AM] Steven Dai: oh i see
[2014-11-15 8:39:13 AM] Steven Dai: just the BitBay address right?
[2014-11-15 8:39:15 AM] Gekko: David has all the BitBay, Lin has the exchange wallet. We just need the coins in the exchange wallet
[2014-11-15 8:39:18 AM] Gekko: yes
[2014-11-15 8:39:24 AM] Steven Dai: oh i see
[2014-11-15 8:39:29 AM] Gekko: please make sure Lin gets the coins from David ASAP.
[2014-11-15 8:39:40 AM] Steven Dai: lin is offline now
[2014-11-15 8:39:49 AM] Steven Dai: i think he will be back soon
[2014-11-15 8:40:02 AM] Gekko: Can you call him? It's important that the coins are ready before 6am our time
[2014-11-15 8:40:18 AM] Steven Dai: so people can withdrawal coin是？
[2014-11-15 8:40:20 AM] Steven Dai: coins？
[2014-11-15 8:42:18 AM] Gekko: yes indeed
[2014-11-15 8:45:17 AM] Gekko: getting coins out of the exchange helps against dumping and also for POS in peoples wallets
[2014-11-15 8:45:29 AM] Gekko: POS is what maintains the blockchain
[2014-11-15 8:45:54 AM] Steven Dai: ｙｅｓ　
[2014-11-15 8:49:21 AM] David Zimbeck: when lin gives me an address i will send
[2014-11-15 8:49:32 AM] Steven Dai: ok
[2014-11-15 9:05:33 AM] Steven Dai: we need articles on Coindesk.
[2014-11-15 9:05:52 AM] Gekko: yes, i agree will do what we can to make that happen
[2014-11-15 9:07:00 AM] Steven Dai: hi gekko
[2014-11-15 9:07:15 AM] Steven Dai: do you have a plan when market open?
[2014-11-15 9:07:22 AM] Steven Dai: we need to fake the volume on bter
[2014-11-15 9:07:28 AM] Steven Dai: and also later on Bittrex
[2014-11-15 9:07:40 AM] Steven Dai: will we release the source code later?
[2014-11-15 9:07:47 AM] Gekko: I have a good bot for Bittrex, and I can take care of that market
[2014-11-15 9:07:53 AM] Gekko: but I don't have a bot for Bter
[2014-11-15 9:08:14 AM] Gekko: we can release the core wallet source sure. I will check with Flubber when the time for that is right
[2014-11-15 9:08:54 AM] Steven Dai: yes..
[2014-11-15 9:09:10 AM] Steven Dai: do we have a plan when market open GMT 22:00?
[2014-11-15 9:09:36 AM] Gekko: yes, we will build solid support
[2014-11-15 9:09:44 AM] Gekko: we hold a major % in the currency
[2014-11-15 9:09:50 AM] Gekko: we will take steps to push the price up
[2014-11-15 9:10:08 AM] Gekko: We won't "pump" it too crazy high. We just want to put it at a good price that it deserves
[2014-11-15 9:10:10 AM] Steven Dai: how many we control this？
[2014-11-15 9:10:27 AM] Gekko: well im not the market mover, that's bob
[2014-11-15 9:10:35 AM] Steven Dai: yes..if we ever can push this over 400 satoshi..
[2014-11-15 9:10:38 AM] Gekko: but, I know we will work together to push it good
[2014-11-15 9:10:41 AM] Steven Dai: then that will helps
[2014-11-15 9:10:46 AM] Gekko: I was thinking 300 - 400
[2014-11-15 9:10:58 AM] Gekko: then 400 - 500
[2014-11-15 9:11:05 AM] Gekko: and have a good floor at 400 at least
[2014-11-15 9:11:20 AM] Gekko: possibly higher if the market works with us
[2014-11-15 9:11:30 AM] Gekko: we need to release technology to really push it
[2014-11-15 9:11:53 AM] Gekko: but we can do some good price pushing
[2014-11-15 9:12:32 AM] Steven Dai: ｎｉｃｅ
[2014-11-15 9:14:02 AM] Steven Dai: we do not want people complain the price..so better we do not broke ico price
[2014-11-15 9:15:36 AM] David Zimbeck: yeah obviousl
[2014-11-15 9:15:40 AM] David Zimbeck: but Steven
[2014-11-15 9:15:45 AM] David Zimbeck: we can break it too
[2014-11-15 9:15:56 AM] David Zimbeck: because soon we will have the peg and the price will move
[2014-11-15 9:16:07 AM] David Zimbeck: but obviously it is better we never break

[2014-11-15 9:16:19 AM] David Zimbeck: because we dont want to be less popular
[2014-11-15 9:17:46 AM] Gekko: this is a great coin sir, and very cheap
[2014-11-15 9:18:11 AM] Steven Dai: yes just tell people we will rank top 10
[2014-11-15 9:18:12 AM] Steven Dai: lol
[2014-11-15 9:18:15 AM] Gekko: price deserves to rise. but without a cool release soon it may want to slowly move back down
[2014-11-15 9:18:24 AM] Steven Dai: i see
[2014-11-15 9:18:24 AM] Gekko: yes, and we will
[2014-11-15 9:18:46 AM] Steven Dai: will ask coinmarketcap add us when wallet and trading opens
[2014-11-15 9:18:59 AM] Steven Dai: so people will see us rank top 20 first
[2014-11-15 9:19:03 AM] Steven Dai: then top10
[2014-11-15 9:19:10 AM] Gekko: yes yes
[2014-11-15 9:19:16 AM] Steven Dai: then top5//
[2014-11-15 9:19:20 AM] Gekko: w00t!!!!
[2014-11-15 9:19:30 AM] Steven Dai: i hope one day we can in top5
[2014-11-15 9:19:48 AM] Steven Dai: and we control 60% of the Total Bitbay..
[2014-11-15 9:19:52 AM] Steven Dai: that will be huge
[2014-11-15 9:21:18 AM] Gekko: how much total % we have now?
[2014-11-15 9:24:09 AM] Steven Dai: 1283BTC by myself and 500BTC by bob...i hold 0.44billion and i think that group hold about 0.19 billion..so we control about 0.63 billion together

That's Steven faking 1/2 the volume in BitBay. There really is nothing else to say on the matter. Earlz your boss is a theif. You defending him doesn't reflect well on you. Unlike you, I exposed it after only a couple weeks of sleepless nights.

I've had to shed blood sweat and tears to make the project recover, chose not to rebrand to prove the point. That we won't let a bastard like Dai and Surplus stop good software.

can you do an AMA on /r/cryptocurrency?