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Atheist always want us to believe that our countries are doing so much better now that people are getting less religious!

But all that i see is:
-more depression and less simple happiness
-more organised crime (done by our governments)
-more rudeness
-more stress

What is your idea on this?

The exact opposite is true...

Atheist countries have the least crime, and the happiest people

Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Canada, Switzerland, Australia, etc... predominantly atheist countries top this list, and all the countries at the bottom are highly religious

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

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1: Norway (atheist)
2: Denmark (atheist)
3: Iceland (atheist)
4: Switzerland (atheist)
5: Finland (atheist)
6: Netherlands (atheist)
7: Canada (atheist)
8: New Zealand (atheist/christian)
9: Australia (atheist/christian)
10: Sweden (atheist)
11: Israel (jewish/atheist)
...
14: United States (christian)
...
25: Mexico (christian)
...
37: Saudi Arabia (muslim)
...
151: Rwanda (christian)
152: Syria (muslim)
153: Tanzania (christian)
154: Burundi (christian)
155: Central African Republic (christian)

Your data is pretty interesting but I don't i think it is very true. I did an Internet search on some of the successful countries on your list, most still identifies as Christians...
The claim that developed Western countries are full of atheists is myth.

Blame Bigotry for bad behaviors not Religion.

You did not conduct such research properly, if at all...

Every country that I listed as primarily atheist has a strong majority of self-identifying atheists living in that country. If there is no religion with a clear majority, I list the religion with plurality first, and the secondary religion second.

If I am wrong, please list the country you disagree with, and the percent you think each religion has in that specific country, and I will update the post if you are correct (which you won't be because I've already checked every country I listed)

Example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Norway

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According to 2016 data from annual social-cultural study Norwegian Monitor (Norsk Monitor), 39 percent of Norvegians responded with "No" to the question to the question Do you believe in God?, while 37 percent said "Yes" and 27 percent said that they did not know.

I lump agnostics with atheists... because, they are "soft-atheists" (I similarly lump protestants, catholics, mormons, etc into "christian", so fair is fair)... so with Norway, we have 39% atheist + 27% agnostic = 66% atheist... 37% religious (mostly christian)... If you don't answer "yes" to the question, "do you believe in God?", you are an atheist
As a result of 66% vs 37% is predominantly one-sided, I label Norway as Atheist...

Israel however, is closer to 50%/50%, so I put (Jewish/Atheist) because it is more accurate/honest that way (half of Jewish adherents do not believe in God, which is different from christians/muslims, ref. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism "A 2011 study found that half of all American Jews have doubts about the existence of God, compared to 1015% of other American religious groups")

Also note: This is not "my data"... this is an independent international report based on numerous variables that has been conducted for years. I simply added the predominant religion of each country in parenthesis (), using the most recent data/polling I could find (2016-2017)

Well, I got my info from this Wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Denmark
Excerpt from the site:
"According to the 2012 Eurobarometer , 71% of Danish people are Christians (64% are Protestant), 25% are non-religious and 3% are members of other religions."

I did a search on other developed countries on your list still thesame.

I still insist on discouraging Bigotry. If this is done, you may be shocked the numbers of atheist/agnostic in developing countries is higher than thought. The stats could even be thesame everywhere. People are forced to become what they don't want to be in these countries.
County like North Korea and Cuba identify as athiests but If the freedom is there, the number of Religious people could really be far higher than athiests. You will be surprised that Japanese and South Korea have more Religious people too.

Denmark is a tough one to pinpoint due to the huge drive towards atheist/secularism in the past 5 years... You are looking at 2012, and assuming 2017 is similar, but it is not... You are also using a different standard for religiosity... Many people will claim to simultaneously not believe in God, but still call themselves christian... to me, these are atheists because they do not believe in God... going to church doesn't make you a christian, believing in God makes you a christian

Here is April 2015:
http://cphpost.dk/general/denmark-still-predominantly-non-religious-says-expert.html

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Gallup claims that 52 percent of the Danish population associates as either atheist or non-religious but this figure is significantly lower than previous surveys that directly asked people whether they were religious.

A survey in 2008, also by Gallup, revealed Denmark to be in the top three least religious countries in the world

How could Denmark be in the top 3 least religious countries in the world if they are 70% christian?

Lets move on to 2016:
Danes leaving the church in droves
Record numbers leave Church of Denmark after atheist adverts

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Thousands of people have left the Church of Denmark following a nationwide advertising campaign by the country's atheist society.

Between April and June, 10,000 people left the church - the highest number of registered withdrawals since 2007.

Notice Denmark sitting around 19% religious, while USA is around 65%?

You simply cannot claim Denmark is a Christian nation... It is entirely secular... Denmark is almost the least religious country on the planet!