Quote from: ambazonia on August 11, 2017, 04:19:24 PM

Bitbay has a very huge vision and have accomplished most of their promises, the features bitbay currently have implemented are awesome and the dev are adding more over time. But in my view, for bitbay to receive adoption from people other than those in within the crypto community, they will have to worker harder towards eliminating the need for users to download the whole blockchain before being able to use the market.

as of now, this is one of the highest working product in the market. thumb up !!

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Quote from: Figatko on August 07, 2017, 05:17:19 PM

Yes, there are two reasons nobody wants to use BitBay to buy/sell something:
1. Horrible UI.
2. No one in his right mind will download the blockchain or try to learn what's "bootstrap". I mean common people, byers, not crypto enthusiasts.

You have to download Ethereum blockchain to user their service and it's like 100 times the size of ours. We had an issue with Mac sync that was fixed in the recent build.

As for the UI... calling it "horrible" doesn't really tell me anything. We have a wizard, help boxes, tons of things including tutorial videos, templates etc.

What does it need fancy graphics or something? Should it sing to you? I mean in reality people use microsoft word and it doesn't have 3d animations and cater to every graphical need.

There is a difference between UX and UI. Our markets use a table but that's needed for when you change from Sales to Coins for Cash for example or when you switch to auctions. Each category changes the feel of the markets and the columns on the table.

We can get around sync but at the cost of your security and the security of the blockchain. I'm not sure we need that liability. However, it is a good idea and it's considered something to tackle. In BitHalo I don't make users download the chain. The problem is altcoins don't have access to things like API requests for unspent transactions. On chainz they make you get an API key so we need our own block explorer which requires multiple servers so users can know there is know their inputs and values are accurate. This is peoples money we are talking about, it's not a trivial thing.

Yes I meant fancy graphics or something. People got used to just click and go to beautiful sites where they can find everything they want. But OK, they learn about BitBay and that it has some advantages, they bother to install the software and wow, waiting to syncronise for a pair of days and watching the poor graphic design.
These two things work together. It would be great if at least one was changed: having a lite client or fancy graphics or anything solving this.
Bitbay is ready for a long time to accept traders, wasn't it so a year ago? But still sometimes I look and see noone there or a pair of coin offers from some community member.

Okay well you are right. And those two things are on the list. We need fancy graphics, the market table itself can be given a great style. Forms and buttons can be given style. Font's and so much can be altered. I would need a graphics guy to work with our skin in order to do that.

Currently we have the background transparency which looks okay. There is a nice gradient on the menu and various other things so we at least have something to build on.

"Fast sync" is one of the first things on the list. Just realize it will have to be optional because users sacrifice security when trusting a block explorer. Also, if too many people do it, then security is reduced and the chain is easier to attack.

So in order to set that up we would need multiple online block explorers similar to electrum. The next update is exotic spend and the fork, after that is templates. So this is already in my notes.