Quote from: Lionel on August 10, 2017, 03:22:42 PM

Quote from: A.Zimmerer on August 10, 2017, 02:32:01 PM

Quote from: Lionel on August 10, 2017, 02:25:31 PM

@A.Zimmerer
Don't do it = Don't get your coins

As far as i understood they require you to send your docs before you can withdraw. FIAT or coins doesn't matter

If you have only coins you can try sending a fake ID i guess, but how can you get a fake ID??

Nope, we should convince BTC-E to do the right thing.
Hand over our coins and token without verification!

Sending fakeID is no solution Lionel. So I will have to become criminal
to get my coins + tokens from criminal ? Nonsens...

If they know it's a fake ID, it means they already knew who you are.
Verification would not make sense then.

If you give a fake ID there is no way they can tell it's fake.

The problem is: how can we get a fakeID ??

Generally how this work is you don't get fake id, but stolen ID, or fake id based on real, but stolen info, and you can get that on the darkweb. However there are several issues to consider here:
1. It's illegal, purchasing and using stolen ID makes you a criminal.
2. If the vendor has sold same info/id to others, that may become an issue if both use it in the same place
3. The id you get is just invalid
4. Poor job resulting in detection
5. You make someone else (the victim of identity fraud) a bigger victim by using their info

If I may, I suggest to add watermarks on your docs. This way, if the entity you submit the ID to is dishonest and will resell it etc the document will contain your watermark. That makes it less useful or useless as they would need to photoshop it out before use (they could still use your info of course and fill out a template, but you may be able to blank out the sensitive parts as well). If you have done a good job that may not be possible or too hard to be worth the effort. E.g if you submit ID to btc-e then add BTC-E in text with for example 0.3 opacity and same color as the document.

Morally, I think it could be argued that there is nothing wrong with identity fraud, as it is becoming a necessity to preserve anonymity or fighting the state. However the practical limitations should be considered. You put your funds at risk by using a fake ID, therefore I only really think it's worth it if you are a criminal or doing something very shady and can not under any circumstances be identified.