Quote from: Minor Miner on May 09, 2013, 03:52:44 AM

Quote from: Keninishna on May 09, 2013, 12:13:07 AM

Quote from: Minor Miner on May 08, 2013, 04:06:36 PM

I, for one, would appreciate Kano posting any evidence (even circumstantial) that would lead one to believe that Avalon has been mining with the Batch II units that they do not own.
As to how Yifu spends his own money, I do not care. If someone is using (or stealing) my money, then I do care and will take action.
So Kano, come on, prove that you are not just a scorned troll and post something with meat.

I forgot about this but there is another possibility for why the avalons have been delayed and don't include them just mining with our units and making a killing and thats the phenominon known as "because china"

they sounded pretty adamant that they were shipping 20 out immediately to test shipping and the rest would start "next week". because china applies to things that are two weeks away not to 20 units that are there and ready to ship.
I want Kano to reply though. He has made the accusations, so I want him to show some reason to believe him

Well

Firstly regarding "because china", I presume most know, but they are actually shipping them in a very problematic manner Tongue

That's the truth of the first batch problems (currently ngzhang's last post in the forum over 5 weeks ago)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163795.msg1722018#msg1722018

Quote from: ngzhang on April 02, 2013, 01:40:10 PM

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why we use such a screwed work flow?

1, save shipment cost.
2, if we go to DHL directly, they didn't accept this device, there is PSU and FANs in it, which is contraband. only these agent can send them out by doing some bribery work. if we tell them we are not satisfied, they simply ask us to deal with DHL ourself instead.

fuck

Now again Back in January they implied they could make 12 devices a day
They also clearly stated how good their original release date was
They also stated delivery dates for Batch #2

What has gone wrong?

They suddenly can't make the chips they made before?
They didn't get almost $2mil from batch #2 and batch #3?
Everyone making the first batch quit or was fired?
Capacitors are scarce in China?

While I'm at it I'll work on a graph: (click for full size)

Anyone feel free to make some more detailed comments about the above graph however,

1) From Avalon Shipping to Network reaching 48TH/s (earliest Avalon could have added 20TH/s + Asicminers extra 4TH/s) is approx 23-Mar
That assumes there is NO OTHER addition to the network while the price of BTC continued to climb slowly ...

So what is the 26THs rise from then (23-Mar) to 25-April
Clearly a % at least of people coming on board with GPUs due to the price - but could 2xmore people have joined BTC in that month with GPUs than existed in the 2 years before that?

Of course the network value for 'today' at 83GH/s is in question - and wont be considered reliable probably for another week at least - but that would actually make one wonder how ASICMINER managed to add 14TH/s yet the network only went up 9TH/s (maybe they were mining early also? Tongue

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FYI the network graph is of course from: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
P.S. Yes I used the 14 day window - the others are simply way too unreliable