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Quote from: Fatman3001 on August 14, 2017, 05:06:25 PM

Hey, I hope RingCT 2.0 happens, HW wallet too (although I'd be surprised to see finished code anytime soon). But I don't see anything here that will drive the price up in the short to medium run. If so, the price in BTC risks falling down to the old price range of 0.0017-0.0040. If that happens some slightly enlightened soul will probably just fork this into a new coin with a new community willing to do what it takes to get all the pieces in place. I seem to remember Fluffyponzi saying something about monero being a research project. I had no idea how literal he was.

Oh, and regarding your disappointment in troll quality. Top Trolls don't waste their time on lower tier shitcoins. I've never been much of a fan, but a lot of people I respect believe in this coin (or at least they did until the fluffyponzi stunt). I'm kinda awestruck at how little is done to attract new users. GUI wallet needs to be polished and everyone here needs to kiss some serious ledger ass to get that hw wallet support asap (The friggin Trezor drama was amazeballs stupid) or this coin will die. If these things fall into place, and market cap and liquidity gets a bump up, it can find some real use cases in finance. If not it will lose to an xmr clone, or even zcash. That's if it hasn't lost already to Dash (yeez!).

Now that's a perfect example of simpleton troll fud, calling Monero a lower tier coin and spicing it up by saying how little work has been done with a pinch of dash and zec promoting ...
They usually do that when they place their bids low, we'll prolly see more of similar BS in coming days Undecided

Yeah, criticism is fud. Gotcha!

Maybe if you made constructive criticism people could work with it? You basically just said that you don't think that current developments like multisig, mobile wallets, kovri and the recent problems with tracing bitcoin transaction/blacklisting/darknetmarket busts will have any positive impact on XMR in the short/medium term, without explaining why.

I think I dropped some clues in there.

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Then you say monero is a lower tier shitcoin without really explaining why. Of course the community is trying to attract new users (GUI development, Mobile wallet development, informative videos and presentation, meetups, etc). Or do you mean it is a shitcoin because it doesn't try to pull wool over the eyes of the people like dash/zcash/eth and a lot of other projects are doing?

Beyond what I've already said I tend to lash out when people calls me a fudding simpleton troll.

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on August 14, 2017, 05:06:25 PM

We'll see. XMR isn't a smart contract platform. It needs traders to keep the wheels spinning.

Which smart contract platform doesn't need traders to keep the wheels spinning? Sure, smart contracts are a nice idea and will be useful in the future, but do we really "need" them? Do you really think a fungible currency like XMR is useless right now?

I'm not going to take the whole smart contract argument with you other than that xmr, unlike a smart contract platform, is dependent on market cap and liquidity to be useful. You can run a smart contract with a cheap token just as easily as with an expensive token, but you can't send $50 million fiat-xmr-fiat and expect anything near $50 million to reach the receiver. So yes, I do think xmr is useless right now. And no, I don't think "a fungible currency like XMR is useless". That's the point.

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Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on August 14, 2017, 06:24:57 PM

You know we're close to the bottom when the trolls start showing up. The next couple weeks should be interesting.

Yep, same thing happened the last time we had a low around .01. Then there was a nice big short squeeze, and all the trolls went from FUDing to crying. Here's to hoping that we can put more Monero shorters in the poorhouse.

As if xmr needs any help falling

That been said, around here could be a good place to buy. But if it falls significantly below 0.01 it won't come up again.