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I think this Project is and was for BFL too much ...

Orderded tons of "minirigs" boxes without any protoyp
ordered much boards without Chips ...
ordered Chips without knowing how it works and lost 5000 Chips ( 5 Wafer )

and now they get results to hot ... = new boards ... = new Boxes ... = new Design ... = new Price ...= New Boxes again .... =

This is indeed the very scary part for all of us preorder customers. With ASIC Miner starting to ship consumer units, and Avalon firing up the next batch, BFL needs to get their shit in order very soon, or they risk collapse from bad PR and complete loss of faith and confidence.

We're facing the possible reality that all our money will be lost not because BFL was a ponzi scheme, but because they were just that incompetent at pulling this ASIC project off, and ran out of money before they were able to resolve their problems and regain confidence from the community.

The people that lose their money if that happens is their own fault. I've said it myself over a dozen times to get refunds from BFL months and months ago. If the pre-order customer didn't request it and they lost their money they were so warned.

Oh man... you are such a WIZARD and obviously WAY smarter than about 99% of the people... IN THE WORLD.

now that I am done with the sarcasm, I'd say "No shit Sherlock". I am someone with a Sept 1st order.. and I'll still be keeping my order. Anyone who ordered that early took a gamble. If people are so stupid that they need someone like YOU to tell them that then this community is full of idiots. Unless a company has stock in hand, and is known to be shipping the product with no issues, and you ORDER from said company, you are taking a gamble. People who ordered batch 1 of Avalon, were taking just as big of a gamble. You choose your horse, then you ride it out. Avalon won.. and those people picked the right horse, but people shouldn't be such pompous jerks to say "BFL is a scam.. get a refund!". You don't have to say anything a DOZEN times.. that's 11 too many. Just say what you want once, then let it play out. The second that BFL's shops close down, don't return money, and all the people responsible move to South America... you can say "I told you so." You have to be a supertroll to say "I told you so" to something that hasn't happened yet.

What happens if BFL ships (In greater quantity) and people receive their devices and gain any kind of profit? I assume people like you will just create some other reason why they were still right... right? If we are taking bets on the future, I'd bet you won't say a word about being wrong if it ends up that BFL actually becomes some sort of success.

..but then again.. keep talking people out of their preorders. Hopefully that means I'll skip ahead of line by a little bit. If they don't ship.. oh well. It would suck, but people shouldn't be gambling with money they can't afford to lose.

Sir, a supertroll would not say what you imagine...

A SUPER Troll would say, invest MOar and Deeper into BFL. Sell yours kids stuff, their college funds, your own college tuition, your dogs vet money, your mortgage payment (hell, take out a second mortgage!), etc....then stuff it into BFL.

A SUPER Troll knows/thinks that BFL will fail to ship and will take all their customers with them. Thereby knocking them right out of the market and trapping them (the customer) in a financial limbo.

That is what a true super troll would do and say. Good thing no one here is a SUPER Troll. Please invest wisely and very carefully. Wait for news on their new packaged chips due to arrive today. *Jinx*

Maybe I should tone down my TROLLINESS? Damn you basically described me lol