Quote from: buwaytress on August 23, 2017, 06:42:07 AM

Quote from: cwil on August 23, 2017, 03:11:24 AM

I won ~60 BTC there, but it was some time ago, around when they first opened. If I remember right, they paid out 20 BTC, then quoted their T&C stating that they could only pay out 20 BTC per week and I played and lost the other 40. A 40 BTC win on Endorphina's Safari was advertised on their site still last time I checked. I was not asked to go through KYC at this time, I was using either a proxy or vpn, and I was never asked to fill out any personal information though I would have used false information if asked.

I don't think the Softswiss casinos were enforcing KYC as much at that point. It seems like maybe mid-late 2015 is when both Softswiss and the casinos that were on the bitcasino.io platform is when the KYC stuff started being enforced often. I have no first hand knowledge of this myself, but I've heard some people on this forum might be able to provide the commonly requested information for a KYC check, such as a scanned ID, utility bill, and a selfie holding said information. They might even be willing to provide custom documents with whatever name you choose for a reasonable fee. I've heard that Softswiss casinos will often allow cashouts if the documents are good, but bitcasino.io/vegascasino.io often won't. I can say that Softswiss casinos all follow nearly the same rules, and if you win less than 1 BTC you'll probably be okay withdrawing without KYC. I'm pretty sure they always require KYC if you accept a bonus and profit.

Overall, I'd recommend FortuneJack at this point. They have most of the same game providers as Softswiss (to include Softswiss games) but rarely pull the KYC bullshit.

To be honest, I doubt that casinos or even operators like Softswiss perform KYC strictly because of regulatory necessity. I think the early platforms were vulnerable to exploit and this gave cause for ridiculous post-deposit insertions of KYC.

The problem with going on recommendations like "rarely pull the KYC bullshit" is that, you could end up being the unlucky one. As long as you are not willing or able to comply with KYC, simply stay away from any site that even has a whiff of it in their ToS. As long as you are not willing or able to comply with any term or condition, stay away.

But to reiterate the point, no ToS can justify a site being unscrupulous. Taking someone's money is stealing, no matter who the person is or what they did.

I find no issue with them asking for information, my issue is that they aren't giving the player another opportunity to re-send in his identity. Given that he broke TOS they are within their rights to provide a denial of service to the user but they should pay out the user his deposit + winnings if he provides his real identity.

The excuse "everyone else is doing it" doesn't mean it isn't theft. In the earlier days of bitcoin gambling no websites would get away with doing this. Bitcoin gambling is becoming more and more like 'real money' gambling which is not a good trend in my opinion.

Quote from: btcqueenx on August 22, 2017, 02:49:48 AM

so the player created multiple accounts & used fake details for bonuses? all the casinos do the same, nothing to see here. don't break the T&C and you will be fine

There is no chance this is not a shill account.