Quote from: cypherdoc on May 11, 2013, 05:57:16 PM

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Quote from: Coinseeker on May 11, 2013, 05:30:21 PM

I've read every post in this thread and what's really sad is the most intelligent arguments are coming from the Ripple side, while childish attacks with little to no substance is mostly what I see from the Bitcoin side. (Seems to be a common trend around many parts of this forum.) I came to crypto via Bitcoin and with all the problems Bitcoin faces, it's the "cult-like" followers who dismiss logic and reason, that is a real turn off. True it would be hard to destroy Bitcoin but it's not difficult to render in utterly useless to the masses. The government can do that anytime it wishes. That's the greatest risk to Bitcoin.

Here comes Ripple, seeming to want to bridge the divide, so to speak and make crypto and fiat conversion MUCH simpler and cheaper for the average user and it's getting trashed before it even leaves beta. This to me looks like a good thing for Bitcoin and ironically probably it's savior.

Look, healthy skepticism is good. It holds people accountable but how can it be a scam if it hasn't even had a chance to honor or break it's promises. Roll Eyes

Let them come out of beta (not that any of you can prevent that) and then make rational arguments on why they have failed to honor their commitments. Until then, it is obvious to anyone half way paying attention that the attacks on Ripple have nothing to do with Ripple and everything to do with the "Bitcoin Cult" feeling threatened by the mere mention of Ripple.

I'd say...Ripple must be doing something right and thus my focus on Ripple only grows stronger. What I believe is crypto is here to stay. Bitcoin I'm afraid, I'm not so sure. Since I've invested a little into Bitcoin, that really doesn't make me feel too great. Undecided

I hope the Bitcoin cult gets it together because this nasty, dismissive rhetoric is a slippery slope into a razor blade and alcohol bath.

instead of waxing philosophical, why don't you specifically address the concerns everyone is voicing here? like with some facts?

i'll be happy to be educated but no one seems to be providing any specific details, implementations, or code to convince us otherwise.

Fact 1 - Ripple is in beta
FAct 2 - Ripple promises to release the source code upon coming out of beta
Fact 3 - Ripple says it will be decentralized on the other side of beta
Fact 4 - It's a good idea for people to wait until they come out of beta before making definitive statements about their credibility and integrity.

ok. those facts tell us absolutely nothing about what the final product will be.

therefore, being skeptical is at least as justifiable as being optimistic. perhaps more so, as the fact that OpenCoin is holding back so many XRP's (fact) represents a conflict of interest.

Just as I never said is wasn't perfectly legitimate to have those concerns. That's all fair but until we have a final product, I can't see how people are making definitive judgments against them and the platform. I don't care if OpenCoin makes a profit off of this as long as it is as stated. Just like I could care less if Satoshi made profit.

Now, the way it's stated sounds pretty good. Again, I have to see a final product to know that this is for real but I will give them the benefit of the doubt, as long as they are clearly still in beta. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that.