Quote from: Bitcoinorama on May 11, 2013, 09:18:36 PM

Quote from: FlappySocks on May 11, 2013, 09:05:37 PM

Hmm, Avalon chips. Not very exciting. Already got my orders in for those. By the time I get them, everyone and their dog will be running them.

Well I can't afford to make mistakes, I'm not quite in the same standing as some appear to be on this board. Having strong academic qualifications has not crossed my path with gold or worthwhile employment opportunities for that matter. I'm yet to find anywhere I have confidence of investing w.r.t. mining hardware and I'd like to make go at this if possible, but that's means limiting risk. In any case I'm being as thorough as I can with due diligence and this offers the best fit for me. The fact they are in Europe and open to personal and independant verification is a big personal plus.

I'm weary of US, Asian and other continents (Cedartec - Lebanon - Middle East lol) and call out blatant scams when I see them. For the most part i'm weary as I'm no where near there physically and can't see for myself. I don't see BFL as a scam, just responsible for making a massive clusterfuck of assumptions and overpromising which is why I don't want to see a repeat of promising what appears to be too good to be true. Rather see under promising and over delivering any day! Welcome surprises are always...err...welcome.

I believe KNC and ORSoC can manage an FPGA, I want to see evidence they can manage next gen 28nm ASICs though.

Geez, one more positive comment on KnC and I'm REPORTING you.

They have zero track record and haven't even submitted an annual report for their "legit consulting business" of 2011-2012. They have close to zero capital and no customers to speak of.

They managed to convince ORSoC to publish a partnership announcement, but that's worth about less than the paper it's written on as a guarantee of feasibility or honesty.

You want to limit your risk and you propose to Invest in a company with no track record, no capital, no product, no tax declaration. A company that could fold tomorrow with the preorders and never have to deliver. You guys seem to have no idea about (international) business. KnC is not a reputable company with a proven track record. CAUTION. Their partners DON'T MATTER if it's KnC calling the shots and stealing the money. Who are you going to complain to? Ask ORSoC for a refund? Ha!

You want to limit your risk? Buy a product that's shipping. (that's to you and everybody else)