Quote from: marthor on August 25, 2017, 12:54:33 AM

I think the issue is that Suprnova uses a very short "N" value for PPLNS calculations on ZEC. This makes the results extremely variable. If the N value were increased, payouts would be much less variable, but it would take longer to get your coins.

Anyway, it's very possible for your shares to be worth nothing with PPLNS. It's also common for them to be worth 2 or 3x as much (or more). It all depends on luck.

Yes, luck is a big factor here, however, the "N" value is not fixed, it's variable and should hover around the last 5-6 rounds.

Quote from: francescocmazza on August 25, 2017, 08:31:38 AM

Quote from: marthor on August 25, 2017, 12:54:33 AM

I think the issue is that Suprnova uses a very short "N" value for PPLNS calculations on ZEC. This makes the results extremely variable. If the N value were increased, payouts would be much less variable, but it would take longer to get your coins.

Anyway, it's very possible for your shares to be worth nothing with PPLNS. It's also common for them to be worth 2 or 3x as much (or more). It all depends on luck.

I agree 100 percent.

Ocminer, you still have not replied to my 4 support requests of 2 weeks ago so please don't go around claiming that your available everywhere and if we're not able to reach you it's our problem.

Ocminer, pardon my arrogance but if I understand the mechanic correctly all you have to do to solve our issue is increase the N value to a few times the share number of an unlucky round.

Can't you do that?

I'll do some tests and see if it's feasible/necessary to raise that value.

Quote from: Pakal on August 28, 2017, 03:38:56 AM

Still no reply to any of my support request. Call it whatever you want, I call it a scam, and I will stick to it until I will be given a mathematical explanation of why of 240,000,000 shares NONE of them was accounted as PPNLS.

I've tried to reply to your post in the other thread, however, it's technically impossible that (valid) shares aren't paid at all if your hashrate is displayed on the dashboard as the shares ARE calculated then. It's not so easy to debug nicehash shares, especially not the "fixed orders" as they don't appear like a normal rig on the poolside, they rather appear as a big miner jumping in and out which is totally unproductive on PPLNS pools as we need a "stable" amount of shares over a longer period - not some bursts of shares, that's why I don't recommend it on PPLNS pools as it's really problematic.

I'd also recommend you to compare results with different pools, you'll see at the end it's the same.. some rounds are lucky and pay more, some are unlucky and pay less.

A pool is no guarantee for your rewards/rounds to be exactly what is estimated.